Breastfeeding support group wants to allow males

Who is currently feeding a baby? So men bottle feeding? Men feeding by their definition of chest feeding? I'm not suggesting they restrict it to specific genders. They should restrict it to one sex: females. The only sex that can breastfeed

Somebody's already pointed out that by chestfeeding, it means by trans men.
As in, biologically female.
Not sure why you're now talking about men bottle feeding, or men chestfeeding...

I agree OP.

But what reason would anyone who’s not breastfeeding have for being in a breastfeeding group? They don’t need to mention gender at all. Just restrict it to anyone who is currently feeding a baby.

I don't understand what the issue is that people are having with this thread. The group admins asked if the group was happy to admit transwomen, and OP said she'd prefer it to remain solely female, and her comment got deleted. She is upset that the group admins clearly are going to let transwomen in. In my opinion she is entirely justified in her upset!

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I totally agree but their argument is that men can chest feed so they should be allowed to join a breastfeeding group.

'Chestfeeding' does not refer to transwomen (males) - it refers to transmen who are breastfeeding and do not want to use the word 'breast'. They need to brush up on their lingo!

I think I understand what you were saying in your OP now, but, as you can see from the first couple of pages of the thread, it was very confusing! It would have been less confusing if you had just said 'transwomen'.

Personally I would expect members of a breastfeeding group to be people who are breastfeeding. What gender you call yourself is irrelevant - the question is are you breastfeeding a baby? It’s a self selecting sample because only some people are physically capable of breastfeeding a baby.

I’m not sure this thread is making sense

Thank Gawd it's not just me lol

I’m with you on this OP.

When I joined my Bf group on Facebook I didn’t have an account previously but because of covid I had no support so had to make a Facebook account to join the group. I had no info or photos and I was challenged by admin to prove who I was because the group was a safe space for women.

After explaining they allowed me in and I found it invaluable, sharing photos of latch and so on I just wouldn’t do that in a group that had anything other than females that were born females.

It sounds like you got on your high horse about trans issues when they were probably just asking because some fathers wanted to learn about breastfeeding

This - your OP sounds like they were talking about letting males join, which I took (and by the looks of it, others too) that they weren't even talking about trans people, were talking about Dads?
Which is probably why you got the response you did for jumping straight to trans, and terf response

Would it be ok to say that there is no issue with transmen or with any other female who needs to use the group for education and support to assist in breastfeeding their baby. That is the very reason for the group to exist. But not for males, irrespective of how they personally identify.

I breastfed in the past and don't know why I would join a breastfeeding group now. Maybe to give support by sharing my experience and give tips as so many women of the past few generations haven't breastfed in the UK. This means women can't always ask their mother or auntie. However, I'm wouldn't be a great addition as I'm not an expert and am rusty to boot. These breastfeeding mothers are the thing to focus on and any breastfeeding mother in the group should come before any male or other women.

Maybe like with AA, they could set up a family and support group separately for those groups. Even then, I can't see what would be the function of a breastfeeding group for a group of males who have no connection to a breastfeeding mother. I can't even imagine it being set up in my breastfeeding days. I don't see a point other than entertainment or titillation (sic) for the males involved.

They are women but they understand that biology will lean a certain way for them.

Denying actual biology is lunacy.

You're not "anti terf". You simply misunderstand what a "terf" is. You subscribe to gender ideology to a point, but what you don't seem to realise is that the majority of trans rights activists now do deny actual biology. They use all manner of gotchas to claim that biological sex doesn't exist or isn't possible to define. You are simply very naive and not particularly well informed.

Also, in what way are they women if not biologically so? You are trying to humour them and affirm your "anti terf" beliefs, as well as hold on to what you know to be true. It won't cut any ice with most TRAs, I'm afraid. Say that biological sex exists and females are different to males, and males shouldn't be joining a women only breastfeeding group, and you might as well be JK Rowling.

[quote HotGlueGun]@Duckwit but is it the most appropriate place for a transman to get support? If their presence as male-looking people unsettles the women in the group, is this ok? How would they know that they are actually female?

Why are you so invested in this particular point? Are you a breastfeeding mother? A chest feeding transman? Come on, show your hand...[/quote]
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My breastfeeding days are well and truly over!

I just believe that, as females, transmen should be allowed into a group that is for females, and I was a bit confused as to why the OP referred to transmen as 'males' that's all.

@Doublebubblebubble but if you believe in biological sex, then you are a terf, according to every TRA going.