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Defending biology should mean no representation?

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TheWordWomanIsTaken · 21/11/2020 09:38

If this doesn't set out the agenda in clear plain sight I don't know what will.
I simply cannot get my head around why organisations and individuals sign in support - do they actually just not understand what they are reading? Can they really not see the legitimate concerns that women have?
I really feel like I have to step away from reading this stuff. It is warping my sense of reality where I'm beginning to feel like I am the outrider in all this and everyone 'gets' it except me. I really fear for my children in this new world where no-one should have representation unless they agree.

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SophocIestheFox · 21/11/2020 12:54

I wouldn’t be signing anything that rambling and incoherent, regardless of what position it was advancing. Really needs editing down- did all those organisations honestly read it all??

What is it that they actually want to happen? Maybe if they looked at the five demands of Woman’s Place they could get some ideas of what a mission statement looks like 😬 then people could decide if they agree with the aims or not.

MichelleofzeResistance · 21/11/2020 12:16

It is in essence a religious intolerance.

It refuses to live alongside agnostics or atheists.

MichelleofzeResistance · 21/11/2020 12:12

It needs to be pointed out and squarely faced in the public eye: this is a political position that regards those who do not unconditionally conform to their beliefs are subhuman, and do not deserve and therefore should not have entitlement to equal (or at times its expressed as not have entitlement full stop) to legal, civil or human rights. This includes even human rights not to be raped, attacked and murdered as frequently evidenced in the 'diaf' and 'kerb stomp' type postings and memes.

Not only does this need to be made very clear that this is the belief, and this faction with this belief are being supported by many establishments such as the North Yorks Police (that's a very interesting one to unpack) that equal access to the law etc should be dependent on the person having the 'right' political beliefs.....

Jesus, am I actually having to say this? In 2020? A few days after Remembrance Day?

But it should also be put squarely in front of the general public which historical groups have shared these interesting beliefs, and what atrocities and human rights catastrophes, and massive international public war crimes trials followed the enacting of those beliefs.

It has been thought in the past by millions who voted for it and supported it that people practicing a particular faith or following a particular political party (or not following a particular political party) or the colour of their skin, or their genetic heritage were reasons to regard them as legally subhuman. We spent most of the 20th century fighting for a better world to live in based on suppressing this appalling prejudice, bigotry and supremacism by an elite who wanted to control and punish everyone not like them. Now 20 years out of the 20th century, here we bloody go again.

Apollo440 · 21/11/2020 11:55

Self id was snuck in with abortion rights. People are now pointing this out. Their response. Lie that it was a public debate. That's all they do, lie and darvo.

StillAFeminist · 21/11/2020 10:33

So so disappointed in Amnesty International, really regret all the money I donated over the years.

gardenbird48 · 21/11/2020 10:23

And signed by Amnesty International and Amnesty Ireland and the Women’s Council!!!
Amnesty are supposed to be protecting people’s basic human rights not campaigning to remove them!!

Escapeplanning · 21/11/2020 10:02

It's very overwrought. Well done LGB Alliance, you have definitely got them rattled.

If everything is perfect already as claimed here then there wouldn't be any opposition. All this actually seems to do is tell bigot and transphobia over and over which is the sum total of counter arguments isn't it?