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The Canadian company encouraging parents to trans their children

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Clymene · 20/11/2020 09:23

Rubies rubyshines.com/

Rubies produce clothing for 'trans girls who want to shine'. One of their most promoted products is this bikini bottom: 'If your little rockstar is looking for a nice front view, this no-nonsense bikini bottom will give her support in all the right places. It magically turns a pointy poker into a dainty dune. No tucking required.'

Available from age 4, they'll send you a free pair if you can't afford to buy one. So many satisfied customers, including a mum whose four year old twins are thrilled with theirs! Gives their children a confidence boost, helps them hide their unwanted parts.

Why aren't these people being investigated for child abuse?

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notyourhandmaid · 21/11/2020 20:26

This is so sinister. Referring to 'unwanted' body parts... and the faux-cutesy language. Ugh.

MindTheMinotaur · 21/11/2020 15:10

Interesting post on this site, some time ago how parental abuse by mother's often took the form of policing and controlling their children's bodies. I often think of that.

PixelatedLunchbox · 21/11/2020 13:05

@SmallPug

What the actual fucking fuck is this?! I can’t believe I am still shocked. How are we ever going to row back from this complete madness.
We aren't nor can we. The pickle has left the sandwich. The world has gone mad.
MondayYogurt · 21/11/2020 12:56

Also there are plenty of photos of the recipients on the company insta. It's easier to believe this isn't happening, but it really is.

MondayYogurt · 21/11/2020 12:51

The owner has posted on Reddit about the store and been recommended Facebook groups. I don't think it's that far fetched to believe that a niche product marketed to the 8000(?) members of a FB group might receive this many positive reviews.

HecatesCats · 21/11/2020 10:30

I'm really hoping they're mostly made up by the company

Duckwit · 21/11/2020 09:53

The reviews..... 'My 6 year old daughter who is transgender.... My 8 year old daughter.... My 7 year old daughter is so much more confident wearing these.... My 9 year old daughter loves the smooth look and can finally go swimming..... The only suggestion is glitter, pink, ponies...'

Either most of these reviews are fake or there is a serious fucking problem out there.

Vermeil · 21/11/2020 08:29

Just had a look at the site. All they seem to sell is a couple of pieces of weird swimwear and a lot of POD t-shirts. Looking at the site itself, and the amazing number of positive customer reviews, I’d say this whole thing was pretty much a fiction and if they’ve sold any you could probably count the number on your fingers.

OldCrone · 20/11/2020 20:12

@TweeBree

Hysterical. Love me a bit of misogyny on a Friday

I don't. Which is why I'm a long time poster on these forums. Acting like Canada is an extreme outlier is ridiculous and uninformed.

Maybe you're right about that. The site selling packers for little girls is based in the US. Maybe we should just avoid the whole of N. America.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3120325-Company-selling-miniature-plastic-penises-for-transboys-under-5-years-old-to-wear

My web browser told me the transkids.biz site was dodgy (well, I knew that). Archive link here if you really want to see what they're selling.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160706150629/transkids.biz/products/extra-small-silicone-packers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20160706150629/transkids.biz/products/extra-small-silicone-packers

crunchermuncher · 20/11/2020 18:59

Why is feeling strongly about something 'overreacting'?

Are men with an opinion also overreacting?

Clymene · 20/11/2020 18:57

@TweeBree

Hysterical. Love me a bit of misogyny on a Friday

I don't. Which is why I'm a long time poster on these forums. Acting like Canada is an extreme outlier is ridiculous and uninformed.

ORLY?
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TweeBree · 20/11/2020 18:52

Hysterical. Love me a bit of misogyny on a Friday

I don't. Which is why I'm a long time poster on these forums. Acting like Canada is an extreme outlier is ridiculous and uninformed.

TweeBree · 20/11/2020 18:50

Then things in the US, Ireland, Australia and the UK have also taken an 'extreme turn'. Overreact away.

crunchermuncher · 20/11/2020 18:45

Women, know your place and stop overreacting! Hmm

crunchermuncher · 20/11/2020 18:44

Indeed, Clymene.

Things in Canada do seem to be taking an extreme turn. But hey, it's an hysterical overreaction to be concerned about that.

These products are grim. It's got red flag stamped all over it.

Clymene · 20/11/2020 18:40

@TweeBree

Ew, that is some creepy diverting right there!

The site linked is vile, but the comment about not visiting because of Canada's 'deeply disturbing' politics is a hysterical overreaction. If you spend any time in this forum, you'll know that the US, Ireland, UK, Australia and others are all having similar pushes of this ideology.

Hysterical. Love me a bit of misogyny on a Friday
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TweeBree · 20/11/2020 18:10

Ew, that is some creepy diverting right there!

The site linked is vile, but the comment about not visiting because of Canada's 'deeply disturbing' politics is a hysterical overreaction. If you spend any time in this forum, you'll know that the US, Ireland, UK, Australia and others are all having similar pushes of this ideology.

Duckwit · 20/11/2020 18:05

You should visit some actual oppressive countries to get some perspective.

Ew, that is some creepy diverting right there!

SophocIestheFox · 20/11/2020 18:04

Bloody hell.

That’s just...fucking hell, what IS that site? It reminds me of those horrrific toddler “packers” that we discussed on here a while back, too.

The first thought that comes to my head about a child feeling distress over their genitals isnt that they’re trans, it’s that they’ve been abused.

And if other people are commenting on or noticing your child’s genitals then YOU STOP BEING AROUND THOSE PEOPLE! You don’t help your child conceal their genitals. Fucking hell. I want to believe all those glowing reviews are false, I really do.

To be clear: if adults want to wear these things: crack on, knock yourself out. But This is aimed at children, from age four. Gender non conforming children, who are possibly already additionally vulnerable over and above an ordinary child are being made more vulnerable by being encouraged to find their own genitals unacceptable. How does this help?

Delphinium20 · 20/11/2020 18:01

What child is at the beach concerned with how their genitalia's outline in their swimsuit looks to others? If this thought is IN a child's mind, I would be very, very concerned as to who may be harming that child.

OldCrone · 20/11/2020 17:57

@TweeBree

I always wanted to visit Canada but I am deeply disturbed at the direction their 'liberal' culture has taken.

You should visit some actual oppressive countries to get some perspective.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

Are you saying that we should ignore child abuse in our own country or in other countries with a 'liberal' culture because people in some other countries have it worse?

I'm concerned about the motivations of someone who would take that view.

TweeBree · 20/11/2020 17:31

I always wanted to visit Canada but I am deeply disturbed at the direction their 'liberal' culture has taken.

You should visit some actual oppressive countries to get some perspective.

DrDavidBanner · 20/11/2020 16:58

Thanks, I'll just be over in the corner quietly vomiting and trying not to think to much about what id on the creators hard drive.

I know we're not supposed to kink shame these days but I draw a hard line at paedophilia.

MondayYogurt · 20/11/2020 15:19

@Kettlingur

So... someone has 4-year-old twin trans daughters that want to wear bikinis on the beach and are bothered by their penises? Am I getting this right? Confused
You know what, I am very cynical. And I like background.

That reviewer has an unusual name, so I had a quick search "+ twins" and found an article with someone of the same name talking about her extreme childhood trauma.

I have no idea if this is the same person but it seems plausible. And I would strong suggest that her awful (truly, painfully awful) childhood experiences may well have resulted in this behaviour.

Now, how many other people are doing the same? And how many people are going along with it because to even question mildly results in a triggered response?

MondayYogurt · 20/11/2020 15:01

Well the "competitive swimming daughter" will certainly be able to beat the other girls now...

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