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Bloody BBC Woman’s hour - oh the poor menz can’t help it!

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NameChange2PostThis · 19/11/2020 11:37

Just listened to yesterday’s episode with an article ostensibly about the lack of public understanding of toxic masculinity. Ooh this will be interesting I naively thought. Instead of covering the misogynistic violence perpetrated by men on women, the article centred the poor menz and their hurty feelz. The presenter even asked about how the male guest would be celebrating international men’s day.

  • I think I have to accept this is another space we’ve lost.
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Coffeeoverload · 19/11/2020 16:57

Haloween Sad I've been listening to Women's Hour since I was 15. Pass the Gin....

AbsintheFriends · 19/11/2020 12:46

Oh god, are these the actual new presenters? I thought they were just filling in before Emma Barnett took over. They're dire - hesitant and appeasing. No way up to national broadcasting standards, especially on women's issues, it would seem.

I always have the radio on in the background and said out loud this morning (ostensibly to DH working in the next room, but really to myself) 'Woman's Hour is a pile of shite these days.' I know they're working their way through the Power List, which is an important thing in itself but doesn't necessarily make great radio as there are so many women covered there's no depth to any of the interviews. It's all very polite and dull.

Sadly the only thing I remember from yesterday's programme was the drama at 10.45 which was a grotesquely self-absorbed tale of a male author (brilliant, of course) 'finding himself' with a tanned semi-naked hippy on a Greek beach while his soon to be ex-wife was at home in Hackney with the children. There was a line or two about him returning to London and taking the children to the park on a drab winter day, but it was only filler to take us to the happy ending where he returned to Corfu to live on the beach surrounded by semi-naked hippies and write his brilliant novels. Twat. Why the fuck was that picked for the Woman's Hour Drama?

pinkbalconyrailing · 19/11/2020 12:44

I decided to only listen to jane garvey episodes and then stop listening when she's left.
shame.

pinkbalconyrailing · 19/11/2020 12:29

I just started another thread on wh...
the new presenter (Jessica Creighton) is all about 'people' not women. she let that guy mensplain on gender issues and didn't cut him short. awful.

Boeufsurletoit · 19/11/2020 12:24

BlueCatRedCat I'm calling it Handmaid's Hour from now on! I can't bear to listen any more.

waltzingparrot · 19/11/2020 12:15

I bowed out with Jenni Murray. Just knew I'd be reading this shortly after.

Angryresister · 19/11/2020 12:09

Hoover I thoroughly enjoyed Chamli the artist the other day. Could have done a whole programme on her. The interviewers just seem to get in the way..

BlueCatRedCat · 19/11/2020 12:03

It's been pretty clear for a long time that this was the way WH would be going, especially after Jenni Murray announced she would be leaving. Jane Garvey is a cool girl, who cut her teeth in the hugely masculine environment that is 5live. That station is also wokety woke woke woke, whilst populated mostly by white, straight men (they certainly get all the plum presenting jobs). Victoria Derbyshire and Shelagh Fogarty (now LBC) are from the same 5Live generation. They may as well call it Handmaid's Hour.

MrsMiaWallis · 19/11/2020 12:02

And even when they have a perfectly nice and clearly talented female artist on ,you get JG hurrumphing away, sounding bored, making puerile comments about how she could never manage to make something like that (no shit sherlock). It's absolutely crap now and I never listen

nauticant · 19/11/2020 11:59

The programme is often being engulfed by a wave of fluffiness at the moment NameChange2PostThis.

Angryresister · 19/11/2020 11:52

Afraid I just tuned out...

NameChange2PostThis · 19/11/2020 11:51

I cried when Jenny Murray left. I thought I’d give it a chance in its new incarnation but the last few episodes I’ve bothered with have been infused with woke messages, LGBTQ+, ‘nice’ female stories (promoting musicians, authors etc). And references to gender, not sex.

Maybe I’ve missed the good ones? But this previously regular listener now generally puts on a podcast instead.

Slow handclap for BBC radio 4’s editorial attitudes to women.

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nauticant · 19/11/2020 11:42

I lost count of the number of times I heard "intersectional" in today's episode. The serial that followed it was a fetish-driven short story that left me feeling distinctly queasy.