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People with cervical cancer. Eve Appeal.

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Smurftastic · 17/11/2020 14:29

Eve Appeal is at it again, on FB:' Globally nearly 600,000 PEOPLE are diagnosed each year with cervical cancer and approximately 300,000 PEOPLE around the world die each year from this disease (....)'. I commented on their previous posts, I don't feel like getting into a fight with woke cervix havers again. I'm going to unfollow them now. Are there any women's health charities that still use the word 'women'? I'd like to support them instead.

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WitchFindersAreEverywhere · 18/11/2020 15:34

@itsor

They need to be called out on this. I wouldn't necessarily be that upset if charities used 'inclusive' language across the board, but it is NEVER 'people with penises' for men's charities. It's always just women getting reduced to our body parts. That seems cruel and almost sinister.
Just had an advert pop up on my FB posted by one of my young relatives.

‘Whatever you grow will save a bro’

Help me change the face of men’s health this Movember’

No problem with sex identification there, 6 photos all men.

PurpleHoodie · 18/11/2020 11:42

It is sinister. Very.

itsor · 18/11/2020 10:31

They need to be called out on this. I wouldn't necessarily be that upset if charities used 'inclusive' language across the board, but it is NEVER 'people with penises' for men's charities. It's always just women getting reduced to our body parts. That seems cruel and almost sinister.

littlbrowndog · 18/11/2020 09:36

It was women

Aesopfable · 18/11/2020 07:37

@littlbrowndog

45% don’t know
45% of people or 45% of women?

By referring to people, incidence is halved. 45% of people sounds a lot less serious than 90% of women. It is like the statistic I saw once that 90% of people were considering reusable menstrual products. Of course they weren’t! Men and boys weren’t, young girls weren’t, post menopausal women weren’t. But I guess as they were promoting them it didn’t look quite so compelling to say 23% or people were which is more accurate.

(littlebrowndog I wasn’t meaning your statistic, just the problem with this ’people’ approach)

PurpleHoodie · 17/11/2020 22:24

And. As long as there is NO reference, or deference to males/trans males - whatever they may call themselves, then...

Checkwokemate.

ArabellaScott · 17/11/2020 21:55

'checkwoke' Grin

BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero · 17/11/2020 21:55

Compromise is necessary if dysphoric female humans avoid language that upsets them, especially when FtM transition drugs increase the risk of gynae cancer. They need the info and support the Eve Appeal provides.

I’m not willing to give up the word woman, but I’m also not willing to throw dysphoric females under the bus. That’s not feminism.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 17/11/2020 21:48

No compromise necessary. It’s a medical/biological issue here.

BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero · 17/11/2020 21:40

Seems like a reasonable compromise. I suppose you could issue two sets of every tweet as well? That way if someone pipes up saying ‘not everyone with cervical cancer is a woman, you bigots’ They can just respond with ‘See our other tweet - we don’t lump trans men and masc of centre NB people in with women, maybe you should consider not doing that either?’
Which would be checkwoke, I believe.

PurpleHoodie · 17/11/2020 20:31

I've had another look over at the Eve page.

It seems they may have been listening.

From what I have read so far, the information on the major gynae conditions has been separated into sections with correct language, and also a separate section with 'couched' language for those women who call themselves transmen/non-binary etc

Will have another in-depth look later.

PurpleHoodie · 17/11/2020 20:18

That would work Betty.

How many women will die due to The Eve Appeal using inappropriate language??

BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero · 17/11/2020 19:00

The ‘Evan Appeal’.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 17/11/2020 18:33

I don’t understand why people go into the business of charities, societies, etc that work precisely with women’s ‘things’- and then delete what word woman. Why but just work for a charity that doesn’t centre women?

persistentwoman · 17/11/2020 18:33

I'd go further littlbrowndog It's displaying contempt for women. It actively excludes women, alienates women, fails to engage women in our own cancers.
It's a deeply misogynistic and cruel attitude to take - to remove the word women because groups like Stonewall lobby against women. I so regret ever funding them.

thereplycamefromanchorage · 17/11/2020 18:31

Thanks for flagging this op, I am going to write to the Eve Appeal about this.So infuriated and fucked off by the erasure of the word Woman.

Off now to start donating to Wellbeing of Women.

littlbrowndog · 17/11/2020 18:28

Why are they excluding women

It’s a strange thing to do

littlbrowndog · 17/11/2020 18:27

45% don’t know

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 17/11/2020 18:26

Was it not them who did the survey that found out many many women don't know they possess a cervix?

persistentwoman · 17/11/2020 18:09

Shame on the Eve Appeal. Foolishly I've defended them on here before but no more. To consciously eradicate the word woman while taking women's hard earned cash, let alone money from families mourning the loss of beloved women in their families is just repellant.

niceberg · 17/11/2020 17:59

Are there any women's health charities that still use the word 'women'? I'd like to support them instead.

Wellbeing of Women www.wellbeingofwomen.org.uk

Mumsnut · 17/11/2020 15:57

Pretty ironic , the name ‘Eve Appeal’. Shouldn’t it be Adam and Eve?

Backbee · 17/11/2020 15:55

FFS, it is infuriating.

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Smurftastic · 17/11/2020 15:50

I almost unfollowed them after the first time they wrote about 'anyone with a cervix', but the silver lining is that it was a breakthrough moment for me. Now I just despair. Is there any charity left? Is there a point leaving any comments there?

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CurbsideProphet · 17/11/2020 15:15

On 6th November they posted about the late Betty Dodson and describe her as spending her life and career "breaking down the taboos around women's bodies..."
Interesting they could use the word woman there without reducing us to "people who have a cervix" 🤔

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