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The Vanishing Act Of Esme Lennox / novel recommendations

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Scout2016 · 13/11/2020 22:13

I have just read The Vanishing Act Of Esme Lennox after Glosswitch recommended it in one of her mail outs. I read it quickly, it gripped me, and I'm glad, I think, overall, that I read it. But mainly I feel pissed off with the plot. Three central female characters, themes of society's expectations of women, poor understanding of mental health issues... it could have been really good but just wasn't.
With Christmas coming up and the possibility of books coming my way, I wondered if anyone could recommend something else please? Ideally novels as I have a lot of the recent nonfiction to get to but equally please feel free just to recommend away in case someone else is looking for suggestions.
I know there is a books section on Mumsnet but I thought here might be a better place to try.

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CrossPurposes · 08/12/2020 13:44

I'll add Lissa Evans and Sarah Waters to the great names mentioned so far.

Councilworker · 08/12/2020 13:43

The natural way of things Charlotte Wood.

It's not a happy novel, but 2 weeks after I read it I can't stop thinking about it. Set in the Outback 10 young women wake up to find themselves prisoners because of their "transgressions".

I love Kate Atkinson's writing although wasn't too keen on Transcriptions. Also loved Diary of an Ordinary Woman and the Poisonwood Bible which made me cry on public transport

BebeStevens · 08/12/2020 13:31

*Jenn Ashworth

BebeStevens · 08/12/2020 13:30

@everythingcrossed

Eleanor Oliphant by Gail Honeyman I hated that book. It was one where I did a full on text rant about how awful it was !

So glad it's not just me - utterly lame, completely implausible dross. The internal monologue, plotting and dialogue are all feeble. I'm absolutely mystified that it became a bestseller and that various neuro-atypical pressure groups haven't kicked up a shitstorm about it.

Yes, this completely. I couldn't get through even a few pages, it was painful to read. As part of a neurodiverse family it felt quite uncomfortably like a nerotypical way of exploring neurodiverse thoughts and it didn't sit well with me. Maybe it got better further on but I couldn't force myself through it.

A Kind Of Intimacy by Jenny Ashworth would be my suggested replacement for this 😁

sauceyorange · 06/12/2020 22:24

Just thought of another couple. A S Byatt the virgin in the garden quartet. And Margaret Drabble (the radiant way, in particular). They're sisters but apparently don't get on

everythingcrossed · 16/11/2020 15:50

Eleanor Oliphant by Gail Honeyman I hated that book. It was one where I did a full on text rant about how awful it was !

So glad it's not just me - utterly lame, completely implausible dross. The internal monologue, plotting and dialogue are all feeble. I'm absolutely mystified that it became a bestseller and that various neuro-atypical pressure groups haven't kicked up a shitstorm about it.

redskittleorangeskittle · 15/11/2020 20:45

We Have Always Lived In the Castle by Shirley Jackson has interesting main female characters.

CrochetyCrochet · 15/11/2020 14:43

Sorry, ignore me. Just seen you don't like Sebastian Faulks' stuff much usually.

Scout2016 · 15/11/2020 14:31

@CrochetyCrochet I did indeed enjoy Engleby.

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CrochetyCrochet · 15/11/2020 14:29

I'm fairly sure this doesn't fit the brief of a woman centred book or abound with well written women. But just to mention in passing if you like Sebastian Faulks you might enjoy Engleby. Chilling but darkly funny too. It's a long time since I read it but I do remember being utterly gripped.

DidoLamenting · 15/11/2020 11:48

Well written women was the criteria

Each to their own but applying that criteria would exclude One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich which is one of the best books I've ever read. The final sentence is jaw- dropping.

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Scout2016 · 15/11/2020 10:37

I really enjoyed On Green Dolphin Street by Sebastian Faulks but that was a good while ago and I don't like his stuff much usually. Don't want to re-read in case I hate it this time.

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Mollscroll · 15/11/2020 10:16

Another one I keep meaning to reread is She’s Come Undone by Wally Lamb. I love Wally Lamb and he’s good at women.

Mollscroll · 15/11/2020 10:15

Agree Crawdads was badly written. I loved the place and the nature descriptions but it made me cross - the author just kept throwing away plotpoints with no dramatic tension. One single paragraph started with a description of the main protagonist spending two days feeling terribly ill and struggling outside and ended with something like ‘but then she was fine and two years later X happened’. I’m exaggerating for effect but it kept making me cross.

Scout2016 · 15/11/2020 09:53

Just well written women and decent plots.
I really rate Women Who Walked Into Doors and Roddy Doyle. Well, his earlier stuff anyway - think he's lost his touch a bit lately.
Really appreciating al the suggestions thank you.
I'd forgotten about Fay Weldon. I read Life And Loves...decades ago and remember being a bit bemused by it. Was probably too young.

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MaryLennoxsScowl · 15/11/2020 09:51

Love:
Agree with Girl, Women, Other, Hamnet, Bass Rock, Circe, Larchfield, Kate Atkinson generally
I like Maggie O’Farrell but it’s years since I read Esme Lennox, it might not have aged well
The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
Kindred by Octavia Butler - sci-fi about time travel, racism, domestic abuse - absolutely clear-eyed about male abusive behaviours but paced like a thriller and a fantastic concept.
My favourite David Mitchell is The Bone Clocks.
The Changeling by Victor LaValle - written by a man but amazing and very creepy - the most imaginative and unusual retelling of a fairytale ever.
I do still like Margaret Atwood too.

Hated:
Normal People
Crawdads (so badly written! And unrealistic!)

DieCryHate · 15/11/2020 09:35

No OP didn't @DidoLamenting, you're right. Well written women was the criteria. Probably presumptuous on my part but if female writers can struggle to create well written female characters I was keen to stress don't let the fact it's written by a man from a woman's perspective put you off.

DidoLamenting · 15/11/2020 09:23

So I know it's written by a man but the woman who walked into doors by Roddy Doyle, which is written from a woman's perspective and (to me) nails it

I don't think the OP said it had to be books written by women. Why would anyone want to limit reading choices in that way?

Eleanor Oliphant by Gail Honeyman I hated that book. It was one where I did a full on text rant about how awful it was !

DieCryHate · 15/11/2020 08:58

@StillStriving that's good to know it's not just me. Yes it's great if you feel a good cry will sort you out, gets the job done!

sauceyorange · 15/11/2020 08:47

Yes to the cazalets!

StillStriving · 15/11/2020 07:57

Also really love After You'd Gone by Maggie O'Farrell. First read it as a teen and It definitely takes some artistic licence with respect to certain situations however it still gets me emotional after so many years

How funny this is exactly my view - love this book and was very affected by it when I read it as a teen. Every so often I read it again for a good blub Blush

I forgot to mention in my previous post The Red Tent by Anita Diamant. LOVE that book. Incredible story of the life of a girl growing up in Biblical times. Everyone knows Jacob had 12 sons, the most famous being Joseph. No one talks about his daughter, except this book. It's brilliant. There a lot of menstruating though (clue in the title Grin)

DieCryHate · 15/11/2020 07:45

So I know it's written by a man but the woman who walked into doors by Roddy Doyle, which is written from a woman's perspective and (to me) nails it.

Also really love After You'd Gone by Maggie O'Farrell. First read it as a teen and It definitely takes some artistic licence with respect to certain situations however it still gets me emotional after so many years.

3rdNamechange · 15/11/2020 07:39

Larchfield by Polly Clark
Eleanor Oliphant by Gail Honeyman
Behind the Scenes at the Museum- Kate Atkinson.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 15/11/2020 07:34

For crime novels, Gillian Linscott’s Nell Bray series features a crime-solving suffragette. It’s an older series, but still in print and well-worth looking for.

Also, Laurie King’s detective novels. My favourites are the Mary Russell and Sherlock Holmes books. Mary Russell is a wonderful character.

Laurie King’s non-detective book Folly is an all-time favourite of mine, about a woman who builds a house on a remote island. So satisfying on many levels.

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