"Can I Still Read Harry Potter?" BBC R4 Thursday 12th November 2020

:) at the earlier surprise at mpreg. I never liked mpreg, but at least mpreg kept itself to the obviously silly scenario of normal male character getting pregnant (which of course doesn't work as a set-up, because if males got pregnant, patriarchy as a system as we know it wouldn't work as it does).

But then, a/b/o vel omegaverse. If this hasn't hit your corner, it's an alternate universe scenario where the main division is alpha/omega/(maybe beta), often with strict 'gender' roles and biological impulses - basically female oppression, but as experienced by (some) men and justified. Distasteful. That one originated in Supernatural, I believe.

For the transing characters, from male characters it's the shorter, 'less masculine' types, for the female characters it's the ones who don't adhere to female stereotypes. I saw recently Cersei Lannister transed - she has such rage canonically against the shrinking down of her world in childhood and then the constant blocks she encounters trying to get some power for herself. It's both infuriating and deeply saddening. We see the same playing out in media as well (Coach Beiste in Glee, that one with the short hair in the new Sabrina). But in fandom, I see this more and more - and also increasingly BDSM.

Indeed Gibbons.

James did a full-length non-magic Alternate Universe fanfic of Twilight, which means she situated the characters in fictionalised reality and tried to imagine how interactions would play out between them without the supernatural dimension. So no vampires.

It went well, so she changed the character names and it got published.

When it first came out, I even looked at it, unaware of this (because I don't do Twilight, dahling) and commented "but this reads like fanfic smut! You can read that anywhere".

Turns out lots of women didn't know that dubious literary erotica was a keyboard click away.

CHAPTER 58!!!!!!!

And Donkeys are never going to be the same.

I'll stop now.

There is real person fanfic??? - that sounds utterly horrifying & in combination with the even more horrifying AI generated famous person porn stuff urgh

The most horrifying category I ever stumbled upon on AO3 was real person radio 3 Proms presenter smut!

I mean, if every a fandom category screamed "urgent mental health intervention RIGHT NOW!" that has to be it.

Gibbons, yes, no sparkly vampires, just an awful abusive sub/dom kink thing written by a someone with a limited store of words for penis who thinks it's sexy to be stalked.

I haven't written Who stuff for an age. Chibnall killed me stone dead, sadly. It'll be a while before I return to it. But Strike is fun, and tbf, as I've decided to start reading the actual books from the beginning again, Rowling is an absolute gift for it. It's so bloody obvious even at the beginning, when you know where things are going, that she has plans, and fanfic is mainly about filling in juicy gaps. (Did I mention I'm a big fan...?)

Don't need smut. Jokes and kissing absolutely my thing.

There is real person fanfic??? - that sounds utterly horrifying & in combination with the even more horrifying AI generated famous person porn stuff urgh

The things I learn here!
Fifty Shades is a Twilight fanfic vampires removed though? Yes?

If you want a specific recommend to start with, this is rather lovely, but be warned, you will be spoilered to ribbons if you haven't finished Troubled Blood yet...

I've read it, or bits of it an embarrassingly large number of times so far. My copy does not, I repeat, does not, fall open of its own accord to chapters 58 and 59 it does.

Thanks for the recommendation

CaraDune We may have similar tastes here. I have several fandoms I read in, and I am sick of Harry Stiles and Loki popping up where they don't belong.

I've never mastered tags, so i just block ALL crossovers. Go to Filters, scroll all the way to the bottom and click on More Options. There you can choose to either only see crossovers, or to block them entirely.

Come to think of it, fanfic may have contributed to my peaktrans'ing. There is such a lot of fanfiction with token trans characters which aptly demonstrates that the author thinks any insufficiently feminine girl is an invalid form of woman. And people in the comments shouting joyfully about feeling "seen".

I'd read that, Floral. Jokes and kissing. What's not to like?

Yup. I've backed out of many a fandom swiftly after seeing a few astonishingly heated exchanges. Apparently the Harry Potter ship wars, where various nefarious dealings occurred over whether Hermione should be with Harry or Ron, were legendary in their ferocity.

I just sort of sit there thinking "I just wanted to write an entertaining story about what happened with Rose and the Handy spare hand Tenth Doctor in the Alternate universe they got trapped in. There'd be jokes and kissing. No one actually needs to really die..."

Thankfully I have a number of sensible friends who are actually really friendly and enjoy fun things, instead of sociopathic attempts at controlling existence...

I was never in Harry Potter fandom, but it became infamous and was written up at length on fandom wank. The main person with all the sock puppets was Msscribe.

And there was me thinking the greatest fan war of all time was over whether it was every acceptable to write Sherlock/Watson where they switched! (Not my thing, but I heard the most brilliant second hand accounts of just how heated it had got).

I write in very very tame fandoms where no-one flames anyone else. It is the home of "be nice" but in a good way, the way be nice should have been intended.

Is Aja not one of the main players in the greatest fandom war of all time, where one of the writers in Harry Potter fandom set up sock puppet accounts to send homophobic and racist abuse to herself and other fic writers?

[quote FloralBunting]Erm, well, if one were hypothetically interested in Strike fanfic, there are some cracking examples of the genre on

archiveofourown.org/tags/Cormoran%20Strike%20Series%20-%20Robert%20Galbraith/works

Usual sensible warnings about variable quality, and it being fanfic, there's obviously going to be explicit sex and angst in many. I'm not linking directly to mine, because it would be rather outing, and tbh, I don't really do smut, I like plot, messing about with canon and trying to keep the character voices authentic. Plus funny. But I do have a first kiss one knocking about.

(Also fair warning, like other fanfic hosts, AO3 does host RPF, but it's kept in a specific place so easy to avoid)

If you want a specific recommend to start with, this is rather lovely, but be warned, you will be spoilered to ribbons if you haven't finished Troubled Blood yet...

archiveofourown.org/works/26684836[/quote]
speaking hypothetically and of course for a friend

thank you :D

On this subject, I was so happy when Ao3 introduced the selection option to block crossovers. If I have crossovers switched off, that automatically keeps RPF out!

Erm, well, if one were hypothetically interested in Strike fanfic, there are some cracking examples of the genre on

archiveofourown.org/tags/Cormoran%20Strike%20Series%20-%20Robert%20Galbraith/works

Usual sensible warnings about variable quality, and it being fanfic, there's obviously going to be explicit sex and angst in many. I'm not linking directly to mine, because it would be rather outing, and tbh, I don't really do smut, I like plot, messing about with canon and trying to keep the character voices authentic. Plus funny. But I do have a first kiss one knocking about.

(Also fair warning, like other fanfic hosts, AO3 does host RPF, but it's kept in a specific place so easy to avoid)

If you want a specific recommend to start with, this is rather lovely, but be warned, you will be spoilered to ribbons if you haven't finished Troubled Blood yet...

archiveofourown.org/works/26684836

I don't write fanfic because my writing is rubbish, but otherwise, entirely agree with every word of your posts.

I loathe RPF, and anyone engaged in it has no business setting themselves as a moral authority.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to write Strike and Robin's first kiss.

And, ahem, if one were interested in reading this, where would one go? Asking for a friend...

Can I still pay my BCC license fee knowing it was used to fund Jimmy Saville? How about that one BBC?

but that's supposed to stay in your head.

This is 100% tied into all this bullshit - there's a whole generation who seem to have no concept of the dividing line between private and appropriate to share.

That's it in a nutshell.

No sense of appropriate boundaries.

No sense of (a) what's reasonable to force other people to know about and (b) what other people might conceivably care about knowing about.

Coming out to your colleagues as asexual. I don't fucking care. Why should it matter to me that you're not interested in shagging (and yes, I know, I've been told that some asexual people are interested in shagging, which I find just weird and a bit humpty-dumpty-ish in terms of meanings of words... but again, that's another recurring feature of this whole shitfest, the humpty-dumpty-ish arbitrary redefinition of words).

Coming out to your colleagues as a BDSM enthusiast/ coprophiliac/ shoe fetishist/ rubber fetishist. I. DO. NOT. WANT. TO. KNOW. In fact I would much rather NOT know.

I write fanfic too and absolutely Floral and Cara - RPF is wrong wrong wrong on every single level!

I had heard about the 1D fanfic into film thing and nope nope nope

there's a whole generation who seem to have no concept of the dividing line between private and appropriate to share
yes most definitely. Im amazed at what people put out there in public with no concept of not just privacy but also that the internet is forever!

I agree champagne i think that would be an interesting new topic