Male violence

You can bet your bloody life he doesn't act like this to a bloke

No, if it was a 6"5, 20 stone skinhead he wouldn't have made a peep.

How frightened she must have felt.

Cunt and slag he called her

She said she felt so frightened that she had to say submissive sorry

I can do what I like, the world is my oyster, (implying that it's not hers), I know people, you need to apologise again, you're a cunt, a slag, if you say anything about me, or anyone else, that I disagree with, I have every right to intimidate the fuck out of you.

If he didn't have all the power in the world to actually slug this woman, he wouldn't do any of that.

He knows, he's always known, he doesn't even need to be violent, he's a 'nice guy', remember?

The threat is implicit, he's one hundred percent relying on it, invoking it.

Without it, he has no power to do any of this.

Because, if this man never wears a mask, he will be encountering opposition, whether deserved or not, on a daily basis.

You can bet your bloody life he doesn't act like this to a bloke.

All I’ve questioned is the extent of his wrongness- I don’t see any violence as the title implies and I didn’t hear any threats myself, although others view what his said as threatening which is fair enough

Following her and forcing her to apologise under the perceived threat of violence, whether he was really going to hurt her or not is enough. He made her feel that he was going to arrange for her to be hurt. I would have been frightened if he had followed me and shouted in my face, until I felt compelled to apologise to him to get him to stop. The law doesn't support that behaviour.

All I’ve questioned is the extent of his wrongness- I don’t see any violence as the title implies and I didn’t hear any threats myself, although others view what his said as threatening which is fair enough

Everything he did was a threat or implied threat--

followed her, with intent to intimidate, accosted her with accusations, would not back off when told he was being aggressive for no reason, got into her private space and interpreted her private conversation for his own ends, felt he had every right to do so...I could go on.

He has decided that he has every right to control a woman's behaviour in a public place. So he wasn't physically violent? Doesn't have to be.

Ugh. Nasty, aggressive man, with such a high sense of delusion about his own importance, it's difficult to listen to.

I can't be the only one who thinks he's thoroughly enjoying himself, either.

Fortunately the MET have got him so all your questioning of his "wrongness" is not needed.

I hope no one thinks I’m defending him, I’m not.

He clearly was harassing and intimidating her and was wrong to follow and confront her.

All I’ve questioned is the extent of his wrongness- I don’t see any violence as the title implies and I didn’t hear any threats myself, although others view what his said as threatening which is fair enough.

English is my third language and I know from living in England that English people are not always direct in what they say. The “I know people....” isn’t on the face of it a threat to me, but if it’s used in England as a threat of physical violence, then ok. But that’s a cultural thing I wouldn’t pick up on.

PlanDeRaccordement

The video is not deleted on twitter.

The guy's a crackpot.

The losers defending him need to properly get a grip of themselves.

Hideous thread.

Regardless of what she said and who she was talking about she was having a private phone conversation. In what universe does that give a complete stranger the right to follow her and berate her?
That is not the behavior of a nice man, its deranged.

Ok, clicked link again, and this time second video is back.
At first she says it wasn’t “to you” but you’re right later on she does say “it wasn’t about you”

Need a transcript.

Was
“Not about you.” Instead. I suppose it could be, I may have misheard.

But the video is deleted now on Twitter? I wish there were a transcript because it happens very fast.

@letsgoroundagainbaby
Well yes, I believe her from the start as she said in the video she was talking on the phone on the tube to her mum. So I also believe her when she said she wasn’t talking to the man but to her mum. But she never denies she was talking about him, only denies she was talking to him.

Actually I'm wrong there:

"Hendon Central, like all stations north from Golders Green, is a surface station".

So it's possible that she could have started the call before getting off the tube.

None of which excuses any of his behaviour.

PlanDeRaccordement

"And to be clear from what we know they’re both on the tube in same carriage. He’s not wearing a mask and she’s complaining about people not wearing masks on the tube to her mum on the phone. If he was only person in the vicinity with no mask, how can it not be about him?"

I'm going to be picky here, but last time I was on the tube the very vast majority of the underground is, well, underground (from memory I do know there are a handful of stations where the tube stops are above ground, I don't think Hendon is one of them).

Do you think the scenario that you have constructed - that she is sitting in a carriage on an underground tube station having a conversation on a mobile phone about the person next to her is actually likely to be true?

Because my mobile has never worked on the underground.

So do you think it might be more likely that she got off the train, walked away, minding her own business and THEN called her mother in earshot of this aggressive man?

Blimey PlanDeRaccordement . You are certainly hearing what you want to hear.