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Forensic medicine Bill Scotland

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fatblackcatspaw · 07/11/2020 19:34

There at it again! Moves to make it impossible for women victims of sexual violence to requst a female doctor.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/18852360.agenda-new-bill-must-not-conflate-sex-gender/?ref=twtrec

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BetsyM00 · 07/11/2020 22:00

NiceGerbil

You can read it from the archive: archive.vn/6MOnO

persistentwoman · 07/11/2020 20:43

There's a particular type of cruelty in using the law to bully women victims of male rape in this way. It's as if none of these people advocating this have an ounce of insight or compassion. Just vile.

anotherhumanfemale · 07/11/2020 20:39

*previous, not precious!

NiceGerbil · 07/11/2020 20:38

I can't the article without answering a Google question do I need to do that? Is it anywhere else.

anotherhumanfemale · 07/11/2020 20:38

Utter shits.

I had a non-routine mammogram recently and in the waiting room it suddenly occurred to me that it could be a man/trans woman doing it. I was utterly petrified. I sat there trying to figure out whether it was better to walk away if it was a man, or to try and go ahead with it knowing I'd very likely faint (had images of me hanging from the machine by my breast, which would have been comical were I not actually petrified).

As a precious victim of sexual assault by a doctor treating me when I was quite ill it was actually horrific thinking that it was less important that would be so scared I blacked out, than it was important for my naked breasts be used as a validating object for some man who identified as a woman.

And actually, the fact that I was sitting there in fear about my breasts being manhandled and me having no control (TRAs talk about being "triggered" by words, I'd like to have seen them in my chair that day) means it's already gone too far. No woman should ever fear their body being used as a prop (at best) by a medical professional. We should never have reason to. But we already do.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/11/2020 20:36

To their credit, members of the committee who are scrutinising the bill have recommended its amendment to say “sex” instead of “gender”. The Government has chosen to disregard this, stating it is “not immediately convinced there is legislative ambiguity

I thought that was dodgy as hell as well. There is no good reason not to use sex.

fatblackcatspaw · 07/11/2020 20:08

@ThinEndOfTheWedge exactly I can't can't imagine the kind of minds who pull this stuff out time after time after time.

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ThinEndOfTheWedge · 07/11/2020 20:06

JFC

To their credit, members of the committee who are scrutinising the bill have recommended its amendment to say “sex” instead of “gender”. The Government has chosen to disregard this, stating it is “not immediately convinced there is legislative ambiguity

They are indeed exactly seeking legislative ambiguity.

When I thought the bastards could go any lower...

BetsyM00 · 07/11/2020 19:59

I think I'll have to contact my MSP again

Particularly important if any of your MSPs are on the committee looking at this bill: www.parliament.scot/parliamentarybusiness/CurrentCommittees/99783.aspx

fatblackcatspaw · 07/11/2020 19:54

you are right ... I need to write to them ALL OVER AGAIN!

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 07/11/2020 19:49

Legislation should be crystal clear. Those wanting it to remain 'gender' know exactly what they are doing.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 07/11/2020 19:47

The word gender should no longer be used anywhere when the word sex is the one needed.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 07/11/2020 19:47

Really?? Really? What are they getting out of this?

334bu · 07/11/2020 19:40

I think I'll have to contact my MSP again🙁