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'To say that some men rape and sexually assault women and girls is an uncontroversial fact'

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HecatesCats · 05/11/2020 18:40

Kathleen Stock has written an excellent blog reflecting on the alleged rape in Mitcham and how best to protect women and girls from dangerous men:

'Other than teaching women self-protection, a second thing a society can do to reduce rape and sexual assault is to encourage safeguarding social norms to get embedded, so that it becomes unusual and indeed remarkable for men to be in public areas where women and girls undress or sleep.'

kathleenstock.com/noticing-reality/

The original story:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8910225/Pictured-Man-hunted-police-rape-attack-teenage-girl-South-London.html

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BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 06/11/2020 08:56

That’s brilliant

Or maybe you’ve made a calculation, consciously or unconsciously, and decided that there’s no social capital to be had in feeling outraged about sexual violence against women

Looking at you Women’s fucking Equality Party you useless bunch of dilettantes

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HecatesCats · 06/11/2020 08:46

I am shocked! shocked I tell you that so far none of them have...

It never happens Kit

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KatVonlabonk · 06/11/2020 08:43

She's brilliant. So well said.

Kit19 · 06/11/2020 08:14

gosh Hecates and I am shocked! shocked I tell you that so far none of them have...

PearPickingPorky · 06/11/2020 08:09

You can feel the anger in her words.

It's an amazing blog post.

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HecatesCats · 05/11/2020 21:00

Totally agree Brassica that it's interesting to hear opposing views, it's the individuals who want to prevent discussion by derailing with whataboutery and straw men that I'm particularly thinking of.

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BrassicaRabbit · 05/11/2020 20:46

This is a brilliant essay.

I'm interested to hear opposing views. I notice a few posters recently who I disagree with (about some stuff) and I'm genuinely interested as to what their take on this would be.

Actually there's a slight problem I have with it, but it's more sideways to the issue or a post script to the post script. Some women who are vulnerable to attack by males are already traumatised from prior attacks. They might wish to "fight back" but when it comes to it, will freeze. I don't know enough about whether self defence classes can help one override a subconscious trauma defence.

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HecatesCats · 05/11/2020 20:26

Isn't it. I shouldn't have said that she is reflecting on the incident specifically, it's about safeguarding. I like the way she sees off the sort of derailing arguments you might get during a discussion on social media. It's revealing that she needs to do that.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/11/2020 19:43

Wow, that's a great piece.

persistentwoman · 05/11/2020 19:34

Kudos to Kathleen Stock. That's such a powerful article.

Imnobody4 · 05/11/2020 18:57

Just read. It's an excellent read.

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HecatesCats · 05/11/2020 18:42

Alternative news link:

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/mitcham-arrest-alleged-rape-b44874.html

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