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"You can be the idea of a woman"

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Random63638 · 05/11/2020 08:21

Richard O'Brien is still my hero; www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/nov/05/richard-obrien-interview-rocky-horror-trans-crack-stroke-70s?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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DreadPirateLuna · 05/11/2020 08:46

The key paragraph, in case you don't want to read it all:
“You and I have to be very careful here,” he says, sounding wary for the first time. “We’ve seen what’s been happening with JK Rowling. I think anybody who decides to take the huge step with a sex change deserves encouragement and a thumbs-up. As long as they’re happy and fulfilled, I applaud them to my very last day. But you can’t ever become a natural woman. I think that’s probably where Rowling is coming from. That’s as far as I’m going to go because people get upset if I have an opinion that doesn’t line up with theirs. They think I’m being mean-spirited and I don’t want that at all.” He came out as transgender comparatively recently, saying at the time “I believe myself probably to be about 70% male, 30% female … I think of myself as a third sex and it makes things easier.”

I think his idea of being "30% female" is a load of woo-woo, but I do appreciate his distinguishing between trans women and "natural women" and his standing up for Rowling.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/11/2020 08:44

He thinks shaving is feminising. And explained why? He didn't say shaving makes you a woman... but that it fits the social stereoptyping!

He is what he is... he doesn't claim to be a woman and is pretty certain he can't be transgender enough for TRAs. What do you want him, and all the other happily gender bending men and women who believe they cannot change sex, think JKR was right and that TRAs are dangerous, to do?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/11/2020 08:40

He's always been interesting and not quite what you expect.

I'm not sure it is possible for any trans person to say out loud what they are without it sounding wrong, how the hell do you explain it?, so I'll forgive him, an actor/writer, for his attempt. He is being honest, he wants to live, in part, as he idea of a woman... and if you've read any woman he has written that's exactly what he is doing. Brash, strong, in charge, delighted with himself! Almost as if Magenta grew up, found her inner Columbia and then thought Fuck It!

testing987654321 · 05/11/2020 08:35

Fucks sake transgender parent-of-three

He came out as transgender comparatively recently, saying at the time “I believe myself probably to be about 70% male, 30% female … I think of myself as a third sex and it makes things easier.”

I give up. He's a bloke, he's called Richard, he's married to a woman and had 3 children.

He thinks shaving is feminising.

It's all bollocks. It's completely meaningless and makes no sense.

And the advice when responding to the Women and Equalities Committee call for evidence is to be careful, compromise, make sure they want to keep reading.

When transgender now just means absolutely anything anyone wants it to

Melroses · 05/11/2020 08:33

A few months ago, however, the rakish Rocky Horror Show creator, Crystal Maze presenter and transgender parent-of-three received a stark reminder of his advancing years.

In what way? Has Richard O'Brian been female identified as male all along and I didn't notice? Confused

TikTakTikTak · 05/11/2020 08:30

Good that he immediately defends JK Rowling. He's looking well.

Random63638 · 05/11/2020 08:27

I haven't seen comments enabled on any trans related article in the graun, assume they are using the Keir Starmer method of trying to please all of the people all of the time, whilst not doing.

As an aside, I'm not entirely happy with the "idea of a woman" but I wouldn't mind looking like Richard O'Brien and having had his career (and opportunities?).

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IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 05/11/2020 08:23

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