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Spy cop Inquiry Starts today

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Imnobody4 · 04/11/2020 17:29

I'm not sure I have the stomach for this at the moment but definately important.

twitter.com/helensteel12/status/1323174497424449536?s=19
#SpycopsInquiry
The Undercover Policing Public Inquiry finally starts today, after 5 years of delay & attempts by the police to cover up the human rights abuses committed by these secret political policing units. Don't let them hide the #SpycopsInquiry news - please share
t.co/eVMiovjyr1

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IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 06/11/2020 09:41

Were any of the police officers who did this women? No, thought not.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 06/11/2020 09:29

I think Lush fucked up in the way they opened the campaign

It wasnt very clear and got a lot of people angry

But I completely agree that it was a dreadful situation, rightly being taken to court, and that Lush definitely had their hearts in the right place trying to bring it to the public’s attention

Cascade220 · 06/11/2020 09:26

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ChattyLion · 06/11/2020 09:21

Wishing the women involved in this the very best. Flowers This is so important.

FAQs · 05/11/2020 19:02

Don’t worry have found the info.

FAQs · 05/11/2020 18:58

@Imnobody4 do have anymore info on the wives and ex partners being asked for info?

Socrates11 · 05/11/2020 18:20

I know this company don't always cover themselves in glory in these boards but I absolutely loved that Lush tried to raise the profile of this issue, which they certainly did at the time.
uk.lush.com/article/spycops-scandal-why-police-spying-campaigning-citizens-should-be-exposed

Helen Steel is such a bloody diamond, wish I could stop fangirling her when I see her (at WPUK meetings) but had no success yet. Helen Steel rocks!

MisfitRightIn · 05/11/2020 02:32

I had no idea about this, so thanks for posting. It’s incredibly important that they are accountable.

Must have been devastating for the relationships/families on both sides of the lies.

stumbledin · 04/11/2020 20:05

This is the web site of the group that has been campaigning on this for a number of years policespiesoutoflives.org.uk/

ArcheryAnnie · 04/11/2020 18:41

The defence (not sure if that's the right word - the police's side, anyway) tried to claim today that the relationships were "consensual", which speaks to their very shaky grasp of consent. If one party deliberately manipulates, lies and misrepresents themselves as part of their work, backed up by the full force of the state, and the other side believes they are in a genuine relationship, meaningful consent isn't possible.

The police side also made some very dodgy claims about needing anonymity in case of reprisals against them - fucking cheek, they are the rapists and the abusers here, not the victims.

One aspect which I hadn't thought about before is the other families of these undercover police - the women, and their kids, who had waved their husbands off to work, not knowing that they'd be cheated on and lied to, as well. Not the same issue, as presumably they knew their husbands were coppers, but still pretty grim.

Anyway, hats off (as ever) to Helen Steel, who has been pursuing this tirelessly for years. Helen, you are a fucking star. If we ever meet, coffee/pint/whatever is on me.

Imnobody4 · 04/11/2020 18:39

Just heard on the news that the wives of the police officers are giving testimony. Good. Reminds me a bit of trans widows, collateral damage.

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MindTheMinotaur · 04/11/2020 18:35

Thanks for posting, it's a really significant case.

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