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advice on a male teacher at DDs school please

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happydappy2 · 04/11/2020 12:48

My DD in year 9 used to have a wonderful female PE teacher who went on mat leave & might not come back. Currently a young male teacher has taken over and the girls feel uncomfortable when he watches them doing PE. One of them has looked at his social media & seen who he is following on instagram....lots of female body builders who pose in skimpy barely there bikinis (as is normal for body builders) but also some young women who pose in a very sexualised way in barely there bikinis....lots of boobs & bum on show. (Not topless but good as.) One girl has asked me if that is appropriate for a teacher & I'm struggling with how I feel about this. I would have thought all teachers have to have squeaky clean social media or set it to private. I've asked the headmaster for his views but wondered what others thought-am I over reacting or is this not really OK?

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Motherofthreequeens · 05/11/2020 15:02

@happydappy2

Dido I am in discussions with the HT, it is up to him what he does with the information-he has a duty of care.

Some questions I'm not answering because its not anyones business. I don't know you.

Your not really in discussions are you?

You said you reported him to head.
Head sent out comms regarding SM use.

That’s it.

Such a bizarre thread...

DidoLamenting · 05/11/2020 15:00

[quote DownThePlath]@Imnobody4
Jesus, I said "why's that" to your comment "I am pleased to hear the Head's response was sensible and proportional unlike a number of the posters whose responses are anything but". As in, why are other poster's comments not proportional. You then replied asking me if I knew was safeguarding was.[/quote]
It was perfectly clear what you were saying. The responses you got are an example of the type of posting Imnobody4 was criticising other posters for.

happydappy2 · 05/11/2020 14:57

Dido I am in discussions with the HT, it is up to him what he does with the information-he has a duty of care.

Some questions I'm not answering because its not anyones business. I don't know you.

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DownThePlath · 05/11/2020 14:52

@Imnobody4
Jesus, I said "why's that" to your comment "I am pleased to hear the Head's response was sensible and proportional unlike a number of the posters whose responses are anything but". As in, why are other poster's comments not proportional. You then replied asking me if I knew was safeguarding was.

DidoLamenting · 05/11/2020 14:46

Not at all, I'm refering to strawmen arguments, reductio ad absurdum,
ad hominem, etc arguments encased in a general accusatory, hectoring tone and insinuations of bad faith

Well there are certainly examples of this on here. It's a matter of personal opinion of course as to which.

DidoLamenting · 05/11/2020 14:43

blame the Mother-for the fact a grown man who holds the position of a teacher, didn't keep his SM private-how original

I'm questioning you why you never thought to ask any questions about what he was doing wrong in watching his class. You've never answered that. You were quite happy that watching his pupils was sufficiently wrong with no further thought.

You've also ignored all questions about whether you discussed this with the parents of the other children. I assume you didn't. For some one apparently so keen on safeguarding it seems an extraordinary position to discuss this behind the backs of other parents.

Noideawottodo · 05/11/2020 14:38

NiceGerbil you are being goady and accused pps of somehow having an unhealthy interest in men looking at scantily clad young girls. That's pretty nasty, however much you pretend you are laughing.

happydappy2 · 05/11/2020 14:35

@ariettesmall

she's encouraging children to make snap adverse judgements with no basis.

This. 100%.

blame the Mother-for the fact a grown man who holds the position of a teacher, didn't keep his SM private-how original.
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DidoLamenting · 05/11/2020 14:35

@Imnobody4

DidoLamenting

As for "talking rubbish" - is that your take on having a different opinion?
Not at all, I'm refering to strawmen arguments, reductio ad absurdum,
ad hominem, etc arguments encased in a general accusatory, hectoring tone and insinuations of bad faith.

And are posts which don't wholeheartedly endorse the OP "rubbish"?

You raised safeguarding. I think the apparent lack of communication with the parents of the other children is a safeguarding issue. I'm a parent. I would not be happy with the OP having the conversations she had with these children with my child behind my back Is that "rubbish"?

Imnobody4 · 05/11/2020 14:31

@Imnobody4

OP you have done exactly the right thing and have no need to justify or explain your position. Safeguarding in schools is crucially important and I am pleased to hear the Head's response was sensible and proportional unlike a number of the posters whose responses are anything but.
DownThePlath Now I'm totally confused. I posted the above and you responded. I did not comment or engage with you personally prior to this. I will assume you have made an error.
DownThePlath · 05/11/2020 14:20

@Imnobody4

DownThePlath Well yes means yes I know. And my other comment was about the fact safeguarding has been discussed a million times already.

So if the subject of this thread is not safeguarding what exactly is it?

But everyone already knows this. So I don't get why you're asking me about it.
Imnobody4 · 05/11/2020 14:18

DownThePlath
Well yes means yes I know. And my other comment was about the fact safeguarding has been discussed a million times already.

So if the subject of this thread is not safeguarding what exactly is it?

DownThePlath · 05/11/2020 14:05

@ariettesmall

she's encouraging children to make snap adverse judgements with no basis.

This. 100%.

Amen
DownThePlath · 05/11/2020 14:04

@Imnobody4

DownThePlath I haven't a clue what you are trying to say.
Well yes means yes I know. And my other comment was about the fact safeguarding has been discussed a million times already.
Imnobody4 · 05/11/2020 14:00

DidoLamenting

As for "talking rubbish" - is that your take on having a different opinion?
Not at all, I'm refering to strawmen arguments, reductio ad absurdum,
ad hominem, etc arguments encased in a general accusatory, hectoring tone and insinuations of bad faith.

whoareyouIwonder · 05/11/2020 13:49

she's encouraging children to make snap adverse judgements with no basis.

This. 100%.

whoareyouIwonder · 05/11/2020 13:48

Just to clarify OP, what exactly has the teacher done wrong?

Are you annoyed he is liking photographs of women who chose to take these photographs and chose to place them online?

Are you annoyed he didn't have a private social media account?

Because trust me, I'd be more concerned about the teachers who do make everything private.

Imnobody4 · 05/11/2020 13:47

DownThePlath
I haven't a clue what you are trying to say.

DidoLamenting · 05/11/2020 13:47

Imnobody4 you seem keen on safeguarding yet, if I'm interpreting your last reply to me, I'm a "Grand Inquisitor talking rubbish" for asking the OP if she discussed this with the parents of the other children.

How is her lack of communication with the other parents not in itself a safeguarding issue? Either she has a genuine concern, which she isn't passing on to allow them to deal with, or , and this is my take on it, she's encouraging children to make snap adverse judgements with no basis.

DownThePlath · 05/11/2020 13:40

@Imnobody4

DownThePlath You don't agree with safeguarding? or you've never heard of safeguarding?
Yes. That's already been discussed.
DidoLamenting · 05/11/2020 13:39

@Imnobody4

DidoLamenting It's the halo effect. Assuming women aren't as capable of talking rubbish as men. If your advice is talk to other parents, why can't you just say that, you're not the Grand Inquisitor.
I had raised the point about other parents before. The OP has ignored it. Why does that make me the "Grand Inquisitor"? The OP only wants to hear validation that what she did was correct.

As for "talking rubbish" - is that your take on having a different opinion?

Kcar · 05/11/2020 13:39

You insinuated I was an abusive perverted paedophile.

That is disgusting.

NiceGerbil · 05/11/2020 13:38

What?

I have said that it's odd for a to think random women on the internet are going to try to ban a young man who has not been identified from going on holiday abroad. In case he looks at women on the beach when he gets there.

Because where did that idea even come from? It was a very silly post.

Imnobody4 · 05/11/2020 13:31

DownThePlath
You don't agree with safeguarding? or you've never heard of safeguarding?

Kcar · 05/11/2020 13:31

You’ve insinuated I’m an abusive pervert and now you’re laughing at me.

That is a disgusting way to behave.

I was explaining why the op was overreacting and how I couldn’t see much wrong in what the teacher has done.

You are beneath contempt. I’m female. I am not some sort of perverted paedophile as you are insinuating.

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