advice on a male teacher at DDs school please

@reallynotessentialism good. Though op didn't say that in her post. Job done then or he's setting himself up for a fall. That's all I would have done, thought that was ear in my original.post, but maybe not.

[quote housemdwaswrong]@didolamenting misread and apologised in previous.post. makes it less concerning. I still think crappy social media use should be flagged. For his sake if nothing else.[/quote]
It already has been. Weeks ago.

@didolamenting misread and apologised in previous.post. makes it less concerning. I still think crappy social media use should be flagged. For his sake if nothing else.

I think it should be flagged up to HT so they are aware sorry, I misread that the previous teacher was a bloke not a woman.

It doesn't have to be a full.out suspension investigation does it as nothing has been alleged. The ht can have a look and remind about social media policy, is what I was thinking.
Following young women,posing provocatively, on an open social account is a dumb move, and leaves him open to allsorts. I think it should be flagged yes, and I think he should be spoken to. It needn't be a full nine yards investigation.

He’s not posting. He’s following accounts that post these pictures.

Particularly as the girls have been fine with a previous male pe teacher

Where do you get that from? The OP mentioned a wonderful female teacher who was on maternity leave and is unlikely to come back. I don't recall her saying anything about another male teacher.

I'm usually the first to.complain about people's sometimes weird perceptions that teachers shouldn't have any sort of personal life but this is different.

All teachers would lock down social media as a common sense precaution, so odd that he hasn't. Red flag 1.

That he posts such stuff is red flag 2. I don't have any male friends that post this, well certainly not on social media that I can see.

Red flag 3 that the girls felt uncomfortable enough to comment them search.

I've been on the receiving end of a false allegation and it nearly killed me, so I would never advocate a witch-hunt approach. Especially possible in this scenario.

But the facts on this post, if they are correct, warrant investigation. Particularly as the girls have been fine with a previous male pe teacher. I would draw the heads attention to it so they could do what is necessary. I wouldn't imply, or embellish, or infer, but point out the facts.

The girls aren’t the issue here. The only person who should be criticised is the OP

I haven't made any criticism of the girls at all. My criticism has been entirely of the OP- her failure to make any enquiries about how "watching" was wrong; her acting behind the backs of other parents and her rude and aggressive posts, including the ridiculous comment about seeing all the men posting.

@happydappy2 I asked earlier but didn't get an answer.

What's the timeline here? Did the girls find his insta first, and then decide that they were uncomfortable with him watching them? Or vv?

I don’t really know what else a head can do other than advise the account is set to private (which they have) and (if there isn’t already) put a TA in who can report any concerns.

Beyond that it’s up to parents to listen to their kids and keep an open mind (not just dismiss the girl’s feeling out of hand and not to leap to conclusions without more evidence). I agree the gut feeling of the pupils needs to be respected but you can not take this further based on something so vague. It’s been raised, it’s on SLT’s radar I don’t know what else the school is expected to do.

I haven’t dismissed the girls.

I haven’t villified them or said anything.

I still think the op has handled this wrongly.

I think the issue is that the teacher has done nothing wrong here beyond inducing a vague feeling. If, for example, the girls had said that he had made inappropriate comments to them, I would advise immediately reporting this and I’d hope the school would investigate and remove the teacher from teaching that class until the investigation is complete. So my issue is certainly not that all year 9 girls are liars. However, you’d be an idiot to disregard the fact that vague rumours are often spread at schools and that most of them are untrue. You’re doing nobody any favours by immediately rushing to condemn any teacher who is the subject of such rumours, especially if the details are incredibly vague and the whole class claims to have the same feeling.

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The big difference to me is between:
A) dismissing how the girls feel because they're year 9 girls and girls of thay age are bitchy etc
And
B) agreeing they should trust their gut and report anything untoward, whilst also advising caution
a students of that age can be prone to whipping up drama and creating stories about staff.

A is utterly unreasonable.
B is reasonable to me. I've heard countless tales about staff thay have come from students and there's been no merit in it, but it doesnt mean we shouldn't listen to others when they have concerns

Anyone who doesn't think the girls have been villified on this thread must have a very low opinion of teenage girls, so all the comments and name calling seem "normal" to them.

I don't even understand why ,really. The only thing that they did which isn't quite right is looking up the teacher. But we know that happens. Parents are even worse for it. That's why SM policies and guidance are the way they are in schools. And it turns out it was a boy anyway that showed OP.

It's OP that made insinuations,comments like "exposing young girls to sexualised images ", who went to the head etc.

knowing he is a young man who has a keen interest in looking at sexualised images of young women

Don't most men?!

I agree most teens have pouty crop top photos on their social media - no evidence he had pouty teens though, almost certainly fitness 'babes'.

Fuss. Too early. Fat fingers. Cracked screen.

That’s exactly my point.

No one knows his relationship to the young women he follows.

Yes he was wrong not to have his insta closed down tight.

But other than that it’s all a load of fuzz over nothing. And I know that because if there was anything to it the op would’ve taken that to the school not the insta.

*mates

I don’t do insta but I do have Facebook. I have my DD and some of her mares on there.

They pose is skimpy clothes and some of their poses are sexually provocative.

Does that mean I’m not fit to be a teacher?

Yes, his mistake. He has made a mistake. One which has caused some issues for the girls he teachers and now at least one parent. Because now they are having to view the other information through the lense of knowing he is a young man who has a keen interest in looking at sexualised images of young women, and doesn't even have the sense, or ability to recognise appropriate boundaries, to lock down his personal social media activities.

If you look at my Instagram, I follow lots of women who sometimes pose in bikinis or whatever. Often for fitness inspiration and sometimes because I know the person in question. I’m bisexual (not that it’s particularly relevant really) but i don’t follow these women to perv on them - I follow them because I admire their bodies and want to be inspired to improve my own. That is all. I’d be gutted if someone insinuated that this made me unfit to be around teenagers. Why the hell should it? I also follow male fitness accounts, again for tips and inspiration rather than because I fancy the person.

Also, if the sexes were reversed and it was a male teacher as per your example, I’d be worried that the teacher’s sexuality (as I would assume that a man following lots of scantily clad males who weren’t sports accounts was probably gay or bisexual) was being used to suggest he was a danger to young boys. I thought we’d left this way of thinking in the 1970s.

The point is that who he follows on Instagram has nothing to do with his suitability to teach. Nothing. Judge him by his behaviour in school but not by who he chooses to follow on social media.