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Follow up to arrests at Leeds Speakers Corner

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Imnobody4 · 03/11/2020 19:22

twitter.com/LesleySemmens/status/1323593206290878466?s=19

Well, @WestYorksPolice have decided that the arrests and fixed penalty notices were issued in error. It was just a ruse to shut down the Speakers Corner event in Leeds.
#WarOnWomen
Letters sent to one of the women given a FPN!! t.co/nHe2BDlh3R

What a complete disgrace West York's police are. They've gone rogue and are pursuing a personal vendetta in my view.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4028651-Kelly-Jay-currently-being-arrested-in-Leeds

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NRatched · 04/11/2020 13:02

@Aesopfable

So they are now admitting that something they planned in advance was actually an error?

No, they are now admitting that their actions would not stand up in court as there was absolutely no legal basis for them.

Yup. Important distinction.

I expect they expected the women to just politely pay up and go home, then thats the consequence for ignoring the wants of some males. Unfortunately, it didn't quite go that way.

I suspect, given their job, they might possibly have known that it would not stand up in court to start with, though thats venturing into conspiracy now Wink

Beamur · 04/11/2020 13:00

What a shower.
Are they under any obligation to explain their 'error'?
I also wonder if there is no error, but they don't want to go to court. There is unlikely to be any gain whatsoever for the Police in pursuing this but would give lots of publicity to PP.

NRatched · 04/11/2020 13:00

I think there is a lot of cases of these fixed penalty notices being liberally applied, yet suddenly the offense is non existant if the person, instead of paying, decided to 'take it to court'. Has happened to a few frieds of mine over school holidays. Seem happy to bully people into paying cash, yet less happy to actually state the case in court oddly.

This case was ridiculous though, as usual when women have tried gathering without the presence of males, to talk about things some males want them to shut up about.

SunsetBeetch · 04/11/2020 12:55

No consequences for that nasty, angry policeman I suppose? His aggression in the videos was quite something.

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 04/11/2020 12:11

I'm reeling.

Aesopfable · 04/11/2020 12:01

So they are now admitting that something they planned in advance was actually an error?

No, they are now admitting that their actions would not stand up in court as there was absolutely no legal basis for them.

testing987654321 · 04/11/2020 08:42

Remember this was a preplanned operation by the police. They knew about the protest and were there to disrupt it.

So they are now admitting that something they planned in advance was actually an error?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/11/2020 08:39

How completely unexpected.

Aesopfable · 03/11/2020 22:55

Remember this was a preplanned operation by the police. They knew about the protest and were there to disrupt it.

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TirisfalPumpkin · 03/11/2020 22:39

This has legs - of interest to people with civil liberties concerns about misuse of Covid restrictions for political ends, as well as mouthy feminists ;)

Good that this is the outcome; must be a weight off minds that no fines are payable. if the women are up for taking it further, might get some sunlight on the decision making process to shut down the event in the first place.

TirisfalPumpkin · 03/11/2020 22:38

This has legs - of interest to people with civil liberties concerns about misuse of Covid restrictions for political ends, as well as mouthy feminists ;)

Good that this is the outcome; must be a weight off minds that no fines are payable. if the women are up for taking it further, might get some sunlight on the decision making process to shut down the event in the first place.

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Imnobody4 · 03/11/2020 22:08

Police issued fixed penalty notice for gathering in a group of more than 6 people even though political gatherings are exempt from the Covid restrictions. Police officer said that gathering to talk about women's rights isn't political.

The women refused to pay and were willing to go to court. WY police review the evidence and decided not to prosecute.

They obviously recognise that they'll have egg on their faces, I'm not sure why you think apologies are something anyone can expect from them, their arrogance has been on show on many occasions.

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Imnobody4 · 03/11/2020 22:08

Police issued fixed penalty notice for gathering in a group of more than 6 people even though political gatherings are exempt from the Covid restrictions. Police officer said that gathering to talk about women's rights isn't political.

The women refused to pay and were willing to go to court. WY police review the evidence and decided not to prosecute.

They obviously recognise that they'll have egg on their faces, I'm not sure why you think apologies are something anyone can expect from them, their arrogance has been on show on many occasions.

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 03/11/2020 21:36

Just a ruse to shut down Speakers Corner event isn't what they said either, that's just your opinion stated as fact?

No, the police printed posters stating "We arrested women as a cunning ruse to shut down their protest" and stuck them up all round Leeds. FFS. The OP was obviously stating her opinion. And one that's backed by the evidence.

Butterer · 03/11/2020 21:35

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