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KurriKawari · 02/11/2020 23:46

"People with vaginas"? So can we also say "people with penises"?

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CaraDuneRedux · 04/11/2020 12:33

@twoglassesofprosecco

The original tweet has "virginity" in quotes. Why? Do Teen Vogue and the NHS not believe in virginity? Is it a silly concept?
Yes, it is a silly concept - I'll give them that much.

It's a patriarchal social construct tied up with concepts of ownership and purity. For a start, the hymen really doesn't work the way myths about virginity would have you believe (there's a good TED talk on this by a couple of women medics). If it's about "first sexual experience" why weight first PIV? What if you're lesbian? Why not first orgasm? What about the ghastly Fundy Christian thing in parts of America where girls have anal sex so they can save their "vaginal virginity" for the wedding night (see Garfunkel and Oates the Loophole - the "sex that God can't see")?

But they can fuck right off with the "vagina havers" nonsense.

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 04/11/2020 12:16

TeenVogue’s readership = 95% adult men, and TeenVogue sexualises pubescent girls.

Fuck me! Is that true? (Both bits)

justchecking1 · 04/11/2020 11:43

One transgender woman who doesn’t present as female all the time “because it isn’t practical for work”. Blew my fucking mind, desperately wanted to know which parts of working in IT aren’t practical for females

That would be the payscale.....

ContessaDiPulpo · 03/11/2020 19:26

I will clarify that I don't think a vagina is the same as a surgically constructed gap. However, that's the language being used by the woke. Therefore 'people with vaginas' is unsatisfactory as it doesn't please anybody Confused

Aesopfable · 03/11/2020 19:20

@ContessaDiPulpo

I don't even understand the people with vaginas thing. You can construct a vagina surgically so females or males can have them Confused
Whilst I disagree that surgical constructed gaps are in anyway similar to a vagina, I am sure transideologues will agree with Contessa and take ‘people with a vagina’ to mean men who may or may not have had cosmetic surgery. They can’t possibly allow women to have any word of their own or any way to describe themselves that excludes men.
PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 18:25

And it is not "Women AND Transmen".

Transmen are a part of the Women catagory.

Hence UK laws on Primogenture.

ContessaDiPulpo · 03/11/2020 18:24

@PurpleHoodie

No. Males do not, and can not have effective vaginas.

Nor a clitoros.

Or vulva.

They may have a cut up and inverted penis. But none of the womens reproductive system.

OK, I think you understand what I mean but are saying that you think I'm wrong. That's fine. I will stop trying to explain my meaning further though!
PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 18:22

No. Males do not, and can not have effective vaginas.

Nor a clitoros.

Or vulva.

They may have a cut up and inverted penis. But none of the womens reproductive system.

twoglassesofprosecco · 03/11/2020 18:19

The original tweet has "virginity" in quotes. Why? Do Teen Vogue and the NHS not believe in virginity? Is it a silly concept?

ContessaDiPulpo · 03/11/2020 18:10

I generally assume that people with vaginas includes women and transmen; my point is that you could also describe some males as having vaginas, albeit surgically constructed ones.

I wish they would say female, but that seems to have been mixed up with the gender cult and doesn't always mean a biologically observable thing

Ohnonononononono · 03/11/2020 18:05

@ContessaDiPulpo

I don't even understand the people with vaginas thing. You can construct a vagina surgically so females or males can have them Confused
Women who identify as trans men is the gap you're missing.
PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 18:05

Inverted penises are not vaginas.

Do you actually know the shape, size and function of the vagina?

ContessaDiPulpo · 03/11/2020 18:02

Well admittedly neovaginas, but still...

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:57

No. You cannot.

ContessaDiPulpo · 03/11/2020 17:54

I don't even understand the people with vaginas thing. You can construct a vagina surgically so females or males can have them Confused

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:53

The Minister for Health.

MP Edward Argar.

www.gov.uk/government/people/edward-argar

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:51

The other pathway is to the NHS complaints department directly.

www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/about-the-nhs/how-to-complain-to-the-nhs/

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:50

War

The Minister for Health.

The Department for Health.

Maybe send the link to newspapers and highlight the issue. The poplular red tops ie The Sun/Mirror.

The DMail/Express.

Telegraph and The Times. The Sunday Times.

People who are good at highlighting these issues on Twitter.

@

The other pa

Cinderellashoes · 03/11/2020 17:47

Teen Vogue - Many vagina owners love anal play.

Vagina owners. Confused

WarOnWomen · 03/11/2020 17:40

Okay, so how and where do I complain?

Flapjak · 03/11/2020 17:36

Brilliant winterfire!!

When we write these down, we can see they are only targeting anything that is related to women and their healthcare needs and experience of being a mother.

yourhairiswinterfire · 03/11/2020 17:30

I totally got the Kinks 'people withs' the wrong way there. I'm mixed up and muddled up indeed Grin

yourhairiswinterfire · 03/11/2020 17:27

The president's wife is The First Person With A Vagina Grin

Julia Roberts in Pretty Person With A Vagina.

Johnny Cash was the Person With A Penis In Black.

Mamma Mia! is henceforth Birthing Parent Mia!

Whitney Houston "I'm Every Person With A Vagina, it's all in meee".

The Kinks lyrics- "People with penises will be people with vaginas, and people with vaginas will be people with penises, it's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world"... doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

Bohemian Rhapsody Lyrics. "Birthing Parent, ooh ooh ooooooh, I don't wanna die".

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:24

The people with penises England football team.

The people with penises Scotland football team.

The people....

Flapjak · 03/11/2020 17:10

Lets play winterfire
Lollipop person with a vagina/penis
Police person with a penis / vagina
Fireperson with a penis/vagina

Mum to child, "go and ask that nice person with a penis something or other...

We should also rename all songs / films whilst we are at..
Person with a vagina in red
Shes/her a person with a peniseater

Popstars
Person with a vagina gaga
Anyone care to add to the list ?

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