Johnny Depp loses libel case against The Sun

@QuentinWinters

I don't understand why any abuse she did then means its ok for him to assault her its an odd position, especially on a feminist board

It clearly was a very unhealthy relationship, but there is no justification for assaulting your wife. Headbutting her fgs. Awful.

Has it been said here? Or do you mean amongst his, frankly delusional, avid supporters?

I don't understand why any abuse she did then means its ok for him to assault her its an odd position, especially on a feminist board

It clearly was a very unhealthy relationship, but there is no justification for assaulting your wife. Headbutting her fgs. Awful.

I suspect that is probably true @ShagMeRiggins

If that statement is true and JKR or her reps had been in touch with both JD and AH then that statement is all that could reasonably, legally have been said.

I would expect there to be a new statement from JKR, but would also fully understand if she chose to do it via her lawyers rather than herself!

Rowling’s original statement supporting the casting of Depp

Of which this portion caught my eye:

For me personally, the inability to speak openly to fans about this issue has been difficult, frustrating and at times painful. However, the agreements that have been put in place to protect the privacy of two people, both of whom have expressed a desire to get on with their lives, must be respected. Based on our understanding of the circumstances, the filmmakers and I are not only comfortable sticking with our original casting, but genuinely happy to have Johnny playing a major character in the movies.

Perhaps their understanding of the circumstances has now changed.

In other great news for Johnny Depp - his great friend Victoria Mary White (married to Shane McGowan of the Pogues) has sent her support and that of Shane to JD via twitter. This was the news headline where I live - yes, on national radio, they decided that Victoria's support merited the headline and not JD's loss of the libel case.

I despair (the national morning radio news programme has a male and female presenter) that women (Not Victoria Mary - the women who research and present the news) are still supporting JD and casting aside Amber by focusing on the friends who support him (ie well if his friends think he is amazing, then the judgement is wrong).

I can never understand why people believe that actors are somehow like the people they portray on screen - are they that gullible? Do people really believe that super famous actors are all sweet and lovely????? And that their friends in any way represent normal people?

[quote DrMorbius]**@SpeccyLime Perhaps JKR decided to back Depp and support him from his abusing spouse.
She made a very clear decision to back him over his victim. Is a one sided statement. It seems that Heard was clearly violent to Depp and Depp clearly violent to heard.
JKR took sides, perhaps she knows things we don't. There certainly seems lots of documented proof and witness statements against Heard in the US case.

How does anyone decide who the victim is in this case?[/quote]
Well thankfully, the judge of the High court has decided it so we don't have to rely on internet sages to determine who the victim is .

The judgement has been linked to on here if you would like further clarification of who the victim was.

This was a disaster for both of them, as they both showed themselves to be very dysfunctional and abusive. I had a feeling JD would lose.
It really was the very definition of a toxic relationship.

What's the deal here? Are there sequel films to be made?

Papers today are saying JK Rowling holds Depp's future in her hands. Times is saying a statement from her is expected/needed.

@SpeccyLime Perhaps JKR decided to back Depp and support him from his abusing spouse.
She made a very clear decision to back him over his victim. Is a one sided statement. It seems that Heard was clearly violent to Depp and Depp clearly violent to heard.
JKR took sides, perhaps she knows things we don't. There certainly seems lots of documented proof and witness statements against Heard in the US case.

How does anyone decide who the victim is in this case?

I feel like unfriending the lot of them.

You'll feel better if you do.

Waiting for the papers to somehow make it out to be JK Rowling's fault.

It’s not her fault he beat his wife, but she gave him a resounding endorsement when these events were a matter of public knowledge. She made a very clear decision to back him over his victim. She bears some responsibility for now putting that right.

Dido: I agree on both counts. I do, however, think it's a real problem that she hasn't said anything about it. I hope that it's merely legal issues holding her back rather than any sort of qualms about speaking.

I believe he abused her. He came from an abusive background and probably never seek helped. BUT I also think Amber abused back. They were in a bad relationship.

I’ve had to sit on my hands quite a bit lately. Connery was a misogynist but G-d forbid you mention that

You can say it in my house ! Husband agrees too.

And I assume that placing Blair with Depp’s legal team ensured Blair always got a place in the courtroom but it might have been more discreet to have had someone there anonymously. The case was held in public.

PS: Not defending The Sun conceptually whatsoever! I just think she'll have to release a statement at some point. She may well be hampered by the US case at the moment, though.

(in context of)

Well, the libel case was specifically about allegations regarding Depp's abuse in context for Fantastic Beasts. The Sun's article was about the surprise that JK Rowling et al. backed Depp in the face of his record of domestic abuse. (Original title of article: "GONE POTTY How can JK Rowling be ‘genuinely happy’ casting Johnny Depp in the new Fantastic Beasts film after assault claim?")

So it involves her deeply, like it or not.

I sincerely hope J. K. Rowling drops him. However difficult that might be legally.

After everything she has said about being abused herself, I can't imagine her wanting to do anything else, to be honest.

Waiting for the papers to somehow make it out to be JK Rowling's fault.

The Times has been busy rewriting that article.

It now says

Once Depp’s libel hearing began Neil Blair, Rowling’s agent, attended the High Court with the actor’s lawyers.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/johnny-depp-verdict-jk-rowling-could-decide-hollywood-stars-fate-rp5c8235p

The article doesn't really bear out the headline but this is interesting.

Neil Blair, Rowling’s powerful agent, attended the High Court libel hearing along with Depp’s lawyers in what appeared to be a sign of support for the actor from the Scottish author.