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We're about to be investigated

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Imnobody4 · 01/11/2020 12:09

Call for Applications: Consultancy on UK Radical Anti-Gender Organizing | GATE
gate.ngo/anti-gender-uk-consultancy

The main goal of this consultancy is to increase international awareness on current challenges posed by radical anti-gender movements to trans people’s human rights in the United Kingdom. Its objectives include:

Mapping radical anti-gender movements in the UK.
Identifying key radical anti-gender approaches to trans issues in the UK.
Analyzing the real and potential impact of radical anti-gender organizing on trans people’s human rights in the UK.
Identifying key entry points for international solidarity.
Scope of Work and Deliverables
The consultant will:

Engage with GATE’s team on anti-gender organizing.
Produce an expert and accessible paper on radical anti-gender organizing against trans people in the UK.

Maya's thread on Twitter deals with funding of this org and it's origins.
twitter.com/MForstater/status/1322679833411944449?s=09

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Gingernaut · 01/11/2020 13:46

Why are 'sex workers' being included?

Winesalot · 01/11/2020 13:44

Strangely, I may still have a claim as an Australian. All of my ancestry has been English or Welsh descent from settlers from the 1860s. No other ancestry which is probably not unusual for where I am from.

Now further back, maybe there is some Norman ancestry which may count me out...

Aesopfable · 01/11/2020 13:41

In fairness, I can't claim to be indigenous as I suspect my ancestors came over in a long boat circa 1100 years ago.

people from a migrant background are encouraged to apply too.

PostItJoyWeek · 01/11/2020 13:38

What if I identify as indigenous?

I moved here as a young adult. I often feel quite English. I am probably better at Englishing than the English come to think of it. I look great in tweed. I have a UK passport. You think I qualify?

Beamur · 01/11/2020 13:38

Absolutely.
Feminist terrorists...
I'm not visiting the website, but perhaps another way of trying to seize the high ground and appear more legitimate (than the aim deserves)?

WeeBisom · 01/11/2020 13:37

"Identifying key radical anti-gender approaches to trans issues in the UK"

I thought that being anti-gender was a classical feminist position. Looks like trans activism is wedded to this regressive ideology.

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 01/11/2020 13:30

Copied from OP:

Mapping radical anti-gender movements in the UK.* Identifying key radical anti-gender approaches to trans issues in the UK.*

What do we think they mean when they use the word "radical"?

Is it possible that by using that word they hope people will think of radicalising terrorists and make erroneous comparisons?

CigarsofthePharoahs · 01/11/2020 13:27

Indigenous?
Well I've a tint of red in my hair so I'm probably a little bit Celtic, or neanderthal. So I guess that counts.
However my sister did a 23&me test and discovered she has a small but significant amount of Ashkenazi DNA.
Does that rule us out?
My opinion on gender is grounded in reality, like most people.

Xenia · 01/11/2020 13:26

Indigenous to the UK? I think i go to the top (or bottom) of the tree on that. Not a single ancestor back to the 17600s not from this country/Ireland and Celtic to boot so not even much of those pesky anglo saxons and hopefully no Romans or French sullying the blood - although the question is were the small dark people from I think Iberia/Spain here before the Celts and picts. Mind you as I have freckles I am the highest amount of Neanderthal DNA at least 3% so you cannot do better than that with UK indigenous......

DPotter · 01/11/2020 13:25

Also tempted to apply.
Can I claim to have journalism experience with just one article in a national trade magazine ?

You can name your own fee!

Go high 'ladies' go high

lionheart · 01/11/2020 13:25

MF did an excellent job of following the money on her twitter thread.

Grin
Z0rr0 · 01/11/2020 13:16

I'm so tempted to apply for that.

merrymouse · 01/11/2020 13:15

They must have a lot of money to throw around.

They might as well employ somebody to find out why atheists have a problem with God. Yes, radical feminists do indeed believe that gender is a harmful social construct.

Meanwhile Womans Place UK and Fair Play for Women are quite open about their beliefs and campaigning.

Do you think they would pay me to send them a couple of website links?

yourhairiswinterfire · 01/11/2020 13:14

So...basically they're trying to find out why a lot of people are still grounded in reality?

Grin Bless.

GCAcademic · 01/11/2020 13:11

@merrymouse

Indigenous people?

Nigel Farage will be pleased.

Yes, indeed. It all seems a bit far right, this focus on indigenous Britons. Ironic.
PostItJoyWeek · 01/11/2020 13:11

Here's some of the pre-reading.

We're about to be investigated
MichelleofzeResistance · 01/11/2020 13:10

Fancy a rendition of the Horrible Histories' Simon and Garfunkel parody?

Soon as I've sorted this herring.

If this group is openly about finding out about, stopping, and internationally mobilising against women's rights and bloody women who won't surrender them, can we now be honest about this being a plain sight men's rights movement?

Because it isn't TM finding women having rights a bit of a spanner in the works.

corlan · 01/11/2020 13:07

I'm identifying as Boudicca, Queen of the Iceni today. Do they want my opinion?

merrymouse · 01/11/2020 13:05

Indigenous people?

Nigel Farage will be pleased.

CaraDuneRedux · 01/11/2020 13:05

Joins Michelle on the Viking bench.

Fancy a rendition of the Horrible Histories' Simon and Garfunkel parody?

WoooImAGhost · 01/11/2020 13:03

Oh. Ellen.

If you desperately need drugs without your parents knowing then contact me Ellen.

CaraDuneRedux · 01/11/2020 13:02

@GCAcademic

Looking at their website, I feel certain that this will be a very evidence-based inquiry and the outcome won’t be at all predetermined by any ideological position. Not at all.
GrinGrinGrin

In fairness, I can't claim to be indigenous as I suspect my ancestors came over in a long boat circa 1100 years ago.

Al1langdownthecleghole · 01/11/2020 13:01

See now I would consider my views on gender to be quite mainstream and small c conservative.

I'm not the radical.

LangClegsInSpace · 01/11/2020 13:00

@AnyOldPrion

Wonder who’s funding GATE....
US government, Arcus foundation, OSF among others. Wellspring Philanthropic Trust, who I've not heard of before, give them loads.

They have LOTS of money. IRS docs here:

gate.ngo/about-us

Imnobody4 · 01/11/2020 12:59

Just looking for TransgenderNI and got an ad for Senior Cross Dressing dating. ..Senior??? I'm cut to the bone......

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