We're about to be investigated

Why do deaf people get a special call out? No pun intended.

Postit - one picture worth 1000 words

'organising against' - er, speaking up to defend their rights. In actual fact.

Really quite extreme distortion of fact, reality and perception going on here, and it has to be considered why this extremely twisted view of other people having rights and needing to be considered too has become regarded by whoever wrote this as a hostile, aggressive act?

Because it's prejudiced to an extent that's tipped from unfortunate to really quite questionable as to its acceptability.

I assume that's because they don't actually care about the people involved

Almost as though they don’t care about tackling the ‘root’ causes of inequality.

Hmm, what’s that other word you can use use meaning ‘root’... 🤔

Why are intersex people on the list at all.

Oooh, I hope someone with a DSD applies. Very hard for them to say no. Maybe Claire Graham? She ticks the boxes of skills, experience and having a DSD.

Under the Equality Act are you even allowed to suggest certain racial groups (white, black, Latin) apply but not other racial groups unless you can prove that they are under-represented in your organisation? Or perhaps Gate are currently over-represented by blind Asian lesbians?

No sane adult is going to answer a job ad like that, because the employers sound deranged.

Sadly I spent some of this weekend interacting with a woman so indoctrinated to believe TWAW and are the most oppressed people ever that she would probably consider^^ them perfectly sensible.

@thinkingaboutLangCleg your last post reminded me of this that I saw earlier.

I'm DISGUSTED! this 'investigation' of our uppityness is only going to last 6 WEEKS!!! I'm outraged surely our swilling evil will take at least A YEAR??? Do I need to redouble my efforts? Order more stickers? How can we turn around this appalling slur on us?

Is it a typo?

Do they mean ingenious? Or indignant?

I assume that's because they don't actually care about the people involved Aesop. They are just playing Woke Bingo.

Like the way teenagers jump on the latest key words whatever they may be.

Their list is a mess by any measure. Black with a capital B, Asians and Latinx, which are all apparently a different thing to "people of color" (sic). Maybe I am missing something but I thought POC was American for not white.

In any case, I don't think the US woke quite get their heads around the normality of multi-generational mixed race coupledom in the UK. As this thread shows even as far back as Neanderthals. The idea of race as fixed and inextricably linked to social class is not so strong in Europe. They don't get it. Their failure to edit their valid oppression list shows it.

Radical anti-gender movements against trans people include, for example, so-called “feminist” and/or LGB individuals, organizations and networks. Currently, the UK has some of the most active radical anti-gender organizing against trans people.

Is the endless repetition of "against trans people" meant to have a brainwashing effect? Gender ideology harms trans people along with everyone else. And what's a real feminist, if women defending women's rights are only "so-called feminists"?

No sane adult is going to answer a job ad like that, because the employers sound deranged.

But I have to admit to a little thrill of pride, reading Currently, the UK has some of the most active radical anti-gender organizing. We're not top of many leagues, but that's one we can all be proud of. And I'm glad to see our old LGB mates right in there with us "so-called feminists".

Aesopfable ahh, ok I see what you mean. Maybe they have so few from the Indian subcontinent that they don’t think of them as a demographic or of including them in the demographic? A US citizen will explain it I expect.

Anyway clearly this investigative group haven’t done much investigating on anything about the UK yet so they really do need help.

Daisies I simply meant even if they take Asian to mean Chinese and Japanese then why haven’t they included these? (And Indian subcontinent and Arab)

And what's Latin x in a UK context?

Year 10 timetable slot in a posh school?

Indigenous as others have said is so utterly tone- deaf in a UK sense.

You very occasionally hear the hard lunatic fringe of Scottish separatists drivelling on about the "indigenous Scottish people" but it's nonsense.

And what's Latin x in a UK context? Presumably in the US that's Latin American origin in which case, no disrespect to UK residents of Latin American origin but as a demographic you barely, if at all register.

Latin in a UK sense would be the Italian community whom I've never heard express any indication that they are oppressed or different from any other majority group in the UK.

Because we have a much larger number of people with origins in the Indian subcontinent for us in the UK that is what we think of as Asian. It always throws me for a moment in television programmes and films from the US when Asians are mentioned and then there is someone from China or Korea or Japan.

Because the 'actions' being complained about here, the 'threat' being identified, is that women pointing out their rights under law through legal channels threatens the potential of a political lobby successfully erasing them. And ought to be stopped

Top post @MichelleofzeResistance As usual!

She’s spot on and the Adele thing bothered me a lot. Americans don’t get to tell the entire world how to react. Black Brits and Jamaicans defended her but of course it’s only the Americans whose voices matter

They can get so angry over a white woman appropriating an African hairstyle. But they celebrate men appropriating women’s identity.

However, given that they haven't noticed that 'indigenous' has different connotations in Europe

Yes someone should tell them that they are entering white supremacist / far right territory here. Although I'm pretty certain the BNP will know exactly what a woman is.

I'm sure actually that many boards on MN will be helpful in selectively finding evidence to prove the stated end point. The relationships board for example should link to several highly teed off poor male people who have suffered horribly at the hands on MN and would be delighted to complain at length. Mostly about how awful it was that their partner was able to talk to other females and get help and advice on how to escape because unbelievably and unreasonably she didn't want to be abused and beaten up by him any more.

Many such males get furious about women getting together and telling each other things, supporting each other to be stroppy and get ideas above their station like the idea that a relationship should be mutually respectful and satisfying, and finding out about things like their rights under law and getting the strength to say no... so many things some males can find really, really find inconvenient to their personal agendas.

I'm sure those males would find it a great idea that there should be some international liaison on how to stop these ruddy women talking to each other and wanting to protect their rights.

Because the 'actions' being complained about here, the 'threat' being identified, is that women pointing out their rights under law through legal channels threatens the potential of a political lobby successfully erasing them. And ought to be stopped .

Well, on my mother's side we are Viking-Huguenot, as well as Welsh.

Let's face it, if you're "indigenous" English, you're a bastard mix of all the invaders ever ... But I do know my family can trace its property & name back about 5 centuries in England. Which is more than we can say about those Saxe-Gotha incomers

coat of arms from around the 1500s (although that probably means we're those bastard French invaders),

Bloody Frogs, coming over here and nicking our nice Viking country what as how we'd nicked from the Celts who'd nicked it from the...

[quote DreadPirateLuna]Helen Lewis's article on America's culture wars seems relevant here:
www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/10/internet-world-trapped-americas-culture-war/616799/[/quote]
She’s spot on and the Adele thing bothered me a lot. Americans don’t get to tell the entire world how to react. Black Brits and Jamaicans defended her but of course it’s only the Americans whose voices matter.