Women win guarantee over female only public lavatories - the Times

I think a couple of women commented about women's rights on the JK petition?
Or was it nearly 21,000??

www.ipetitions.com/petition/in-solidarity-with-jk-rowling

Can we see the uk version please?
Signed by not trans women service users?

Did they ask the vulnerable women who use the services? Did they allow women to complete the surveys anonymously? If not they are practically worthless.

Where's yours?

I am at the bus stop smiling to myself as I read Datun's posts

An internet forum, a twitter clique and a handful of newspaper columnists and washed up celebrities do not a consensus make...

... and the Government of the country who agree that "Women will be guaranteed access to female-only lavatories in public buildings".

The answer is still no.

The lesbians in the other articles I posted said differently. You really are showing how little you know about what life is like for visibly gender nonconforming people.

Says the poster who is incapable of even defining the word lesbian.

Not only do you know nothing about women, or lesbians, you don't even have a word for them in your language.

You really are showing how little you know about what life is like for visibly gender nonconforming people.

You have no idea what I look like.

You really are showing how little you know about what life is like for visibly gender nonconforming people.

You have no idea what I look like.

Well you know what, JJ, all I can advise is a little patience.

I disagree that this means transwomen with GRCs. You, on the other hand can spend the next umpteen years trying to make that little concept workable.

Women will be guaranteed access to female-only lavatories in public buildings, the government has said.

And women includes trans women, unless theres an amendment to the Equalities Act proposed that I haven't seen yet.

You don't get to speak for all women, lots of women, most women in fact and certainly most feminists strongly disagree with you.

Do you have a source for this? Where all women were surveyed and 'most' women and 'most' feminists disagreed with us? Or have you just made that up?

Women will be guaranteed access to female-only lavatories in public buildings, the government has said.

And women includes trans women, unless theres an amendment to the Equalities Act proposed that I haven't seen yet.

The lesbians in the other articles I posted said differently. You really are showing how little you know about what life is like for visibly gender nonconforming people.

Seems to be an echo on the site tonight.

Do you not think this might escalate the problem? That a gender nonconforming woman in the women's or a gender nonconforming man in the men's might get harassed because someone decides theres a place for freaks like you now. As someone whose been on the end of that kind of shit quite a lot I could well imagine it happening.

I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about what happens if a gender nonconforming man uses a men's toilet. But women don't police other women's gender nonconformity in the women's toilets. Even in the article you posted about the lesbians being harassed in a women's toilet, it wasn't other women who did that, it was a male security guard.

You really are showing how little you know about women.

Do you not think this might escalate the problem? That a gender nonconforming woman in the women's or a gender nonconforming man in the men's might get harassed because someone decides theres a place for freaks like you now. As someone whose been on the end of that kind of shit quite a lot I could well imagine it happening.

I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about what happens if a gender nonconforming man uses a men's toilet. But women don't police other women's gender nonconformity in the women's toilets. Even in the article you posted about the lesbians being harassed in a women's toilet, it wasn't other women who did that, it was a male security guard.

You really are showing how little you know about women.

Thousands of feminists have come out on the streets in support of trans rights. Gender critical events can barely muster dozens. Pretty much every major feminist and woman's organisation both domestically and internationally supports trans rights. An internet forum, a twitter clique and a handful of newspaper columnists and washed up celebrities do not a consensus make.

Escape I'm going to join you and dig for Ann whenever jj claims to be speaking for feminists. Most of them in fact.

thefederalist.com/2018/07/11/trans-bathrooms-definitely-discrimination-women-children/
An American view from Miriam Ben-Shalom.

Oh, and just in case you haven't quite got it yet, it will be working, without decimating the tourist industry and without, funnily enough, and sorry to disappoint, neon signs pointing at women's boobs shouting 'I have tits'.