Women win guarantee over female only public lavatories - the Times

If we’re a small, deluded & irrelevant bunch of women, why do the likes of jj and milad spend so much time arguing with us?

I have been 'misgendered' by many many men. Never by a woman oddly'

Well clearly some women have had different experiences. I'm not saying all gender nonconforming women oppose bathroom bills, but that some have done because they think it would be harmful to them. I'm not even saying they are right necessarily (I think they are but its not my point), or that their views should supercede other views. What I objected to was attempts to erase them from the debate and the refusal to address or even acknowledge their concerns.

Oh sorry did I forget a few?
'You don't know what it's like.'
'You've no idea.'
'Don't you know...?'
'Loser.'
'Fascist.'

It's still 'no'.

Tonight's donation from JJ is to...

LGB Alliance

Thanks for all your work here promoting their reasons for organising.

The lesbians in the other articles I posted said differently. You really are showing how little you know about what life is like for visibly gender nonconforming people.

'Visibly 'gender no conforming woman' here. One of those you care deeply about who may be mistaken for men and ejected from female only spaces.

I have been 'misgendered' by many many men. Never by a woman oddly'

Almost as if men see stereotypes as what is important, where women recognise actual sex. Its an odd phenomenom.

Definitely an echo here !

Maybe these organisations should concentrate on getting the same rights for women as we have in the UK. Any country that doesn't provide eg paid pregnancy leave for women is deeply misogynistic and no model that we in the UK should want to follow.

Maybe these organisations should concentrate on getting the same rights for women as we have in the UK. Any country that doesn't provide eg paid pregnancy leave for women is deeply misogynistic and no model that we in the UK should want to follow.

The lesbians in the other articles I posted said differently. You really are showing how little you know about what life is like for visibly gender nonconforming people.

'Visibly 'gender no conforming woman' here. One of those you care deeply about who may be mistaken for men and ejected from female only spaces.

I have been 'misgendered' by many many men. Never by a woman oddly'

Almost as if men see stereotypes as what is important, where women recognise actual sex. Its an odd phenomenom.

Do you not understand how democracy works? Law changes have to be voted on in Parliament. There are no new laws tabled for debate that would end the right of trans women to use toilets inline with their gender. It doesn;t matter how many times you go but, but, because some shiny suited Tory is puling the wool over your eyes, what counts is the law and that is not changing.

The lesbians in the other articles I posted said differently. You really are showing how little you know about what life is like for visibly gender nonconforming people.

'Visibly 'gender no conforming woman' here. One of those you care deeply about who may be mistaken for men and ejected from female only spaces.

I have been 'misgendered' by many many men. Never by a woman oddly'

Almost as if men see stereotypes as what is important, where women recognise actual sex. Its an odd phenomenom.

The lesbians in the other articles I posted said differently. You really are showing how little you know about what life is like for visibly gender nonconforming people.

'Visibly 'gender no conforming woman' here. One of those you care deeply about who may be mistaken for men and ejected from female only spaces.

I have been 'misgendered' by many many men. Never by a woman oddly'

Almost as if men see stereotypes as what is important, where women recognise actual sex. Its an odd phenomenom.

Can we see the uk version please?
Signed by not trans women service users?

Can we see the uk version please?
Signed by not trans women service users?

"My Lords, on single-sex spaces, the overwhelming majority of occasions on which they are used—we can all bear testament to that—is on self-identification, and the Government do not intend to interfere with that."

They are not changing the Equality Act. It doesn;t matter what they say to try and pretend they are giving something to both sides. Unless they change the law then all credible legal opinion is that trans women have the right to use toilets inline with their gender. Liz Truss' department was even prepared to go to court against Ann Sinnott to defend that.

Maybe these organisations should concentrate on getting the same rights for women as we have in the UK. Any country that doesn't provide eg paid pregnancy leave for women is deeply misogynistic and no model that we in the UK should want to follow.

Where's yours?

Sigh.

Ours has resulted in:

Women will be guaranteed access to female-only lavatories in public buildings, the government has said.

Kemi Badenoch The Exchequer Secretary and Equalities Minister
In the H of C

The government believes that the protection of single-sex spaces, as provided for in the Equality Act, is important. The Act makes clear that providers have the right to restrict the use of spaces on the basis of sex, and exclude transgender people, with or without a Gender Recognition Certificate, if this is justified.

At this stage, we are not proposing further legislative guidance but we will keep this under review. The Equality and Human Rights Commission is independent of the government and makes its own decisions in relation to drafting the guidance that it creates and publishes.

Women who are victims of male violence have consistently stressed the value of a female-only space for their recovery in previous research that people bothered to do.

Has anyone read Dr Ems piece on the relentless gaslighting women married to transitioners go through? There is a thread worth a look.