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Claire Parry’s killer found NOT GUILTY of Murder.

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GroundAlmonds · 27/10/2020 12:51

Unbelievable.

www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/18825133.dorset-policeman-timothy-brehmer-found-not-guilty-murder/

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CaraDuneRedux · 27/10/2020 13:44

Who was it that talked about women and their 'egg shell skulls'?

Jane Fae, extreme porn advocate (as in the sort of porn where women are portrayed as seriously injured and killed by men in pursuit of the male orgasm), now re-invented as "harmless knitting granny" and trans-activist. Whenever I see Fae, I think Fae would have been in the front row as the tumbrils arrived, with a certain unhealthy interest in being spattered with the blood of female aristocrats in particular.

WeeBisom · 27/10/2020 13:41

Who was it that talked about women and their 'egg shell skulls'? Women are such fragile things, they die so easily. You try to push them out of the car and their necks just magically break! This outcome is pretty unbelievable. Apparently he stabbed himself at the scene and when the police picked him up he said she had stabbed him and he was acting in self defence. That was found to be a lie. So despite the fact he lied the jury then believed everything he said?

Something else that is deeply annoying is this: he went for the loss of control defence.When that defence was reformed, the statute specifically said you couldn't use loss of control as an excuse when the trigger was an affair. This has now been watered down so much, that in this case they could say it wasn't revealing the affair which caused the loss of control but the mere sending of the text message. The law was reformed to protect women, but now it's pointless.

CaraDuneRedux · 27/10/2020 13:39

@BlueThistles

He will still get Life 🌺
You think?

My money's on 5 years, out in 2 and a half.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 27/10/2020 13:38

This makes me so angry. How do you "accidentally" strangle someone whilst trying to get them out of your car?

He murdered her.

BlueThistles · 27/10/2020 13:38

He will still get Life 🌺

Cocothefirst · 27/10/2020 13:37

Absolutely disgusting.

CaraDuneRedux · 27/10/2020 13:37

I am too angry to post coherently about this right now.

GroundAlmonds · 27/10/2020 13:37

Unless the law is specifically changed so that strangulation death = automatically murder charge, conviction, sentencing, no mitigating factors, then nothing will change.

Sadly, I think you’re right.

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GroundAlmonds · 27/10/2020 13:36

Reading more now, his story seems to have moved around a lot , too.

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PicsInRed · 27/10/2020 13:34

@Viviennemary

I couldn't believe this when I read it. How is strangling somebody not murder.
My guess would be ... judges watch porn too. Women like it we don't so it cant be that bad, right?

Unless the law is specifically changed so that strangulation death = automatically murder charge, conviction, sentencing, no mitigating factors, then nothing will change.

Viviennemary · 27/10/2020 13:28

I couldn't believe this when I read it. How is strangling somebody not murder.

RoyalCorgi · 27/10/2020 13:26

It does seem prompt - judges usually have to take certain things into account before working out the sentence.

Obviously this is an appalling verdict. But it's like those women who were "accidentally" strangle to death during sex - juries don't seem to understand how much force you have to apply to kill someone by strangling.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 27/10/2020 13:25

he helped her out of the car head first

FFS.

User27aw · 27/10/2020 13:20

@GroundAlmonds

He is being sentenced for the Manslaughter conviction at 2.30. Does that seem rather prompt?
I agree it seems very quick.
user147425843578 · 27/10/2020 13:19

Also, juries don't have to provide their reasoning for their decision. So it could be based on not wanting to convict a police officer, based on liking how he came across in court, based on a misunderstanding of the burden of proof, based on disliking the prosecutor, based on not wanting to be responsible for sending someone to prison...

I wouldn't take it to mean they necessarily believed he accidentally strangled her. They may have formed the view that the prosecution did not meet the legal burden of proof (or may have misunderstood what the reasonable doubt instruction meant") or any of a number of faulty reasons.

I don't know why people think jury trials are a good way of delivering justice in the way people mean here. There is no transparency and no recourse for faulty application of the law because they don't have to publish a judgment like a judge would, who could then be challenged for erring on a point of law.

It's the system and structures that need outrage, attention and change.

Lockheart · 27/10/2020 13:19

I would like to read the sentencing remarks, once released.

GroundAlmonds · 27/10/2020 13:18

He is being sentenced for the Manslaughter conviction at 2.30. Does that seem rather prompt?

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User27aw · 27/10/2020 13:17

Surely there must have been some forensic evidence on how exactly she was killed. It cant just have been on his evidence. Shocking verdict.

persistentwoman · 27/10/2020 13:16

He's a police officer! And having done jury service I can see why it is possible for some juries to find in his favour - some are stupid enough to believe a police officer can do no wrong. An awful result.

GroundAlmonds · 27/10/2020 13:14

He denies strangling her at all @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

He said her neck was compressed by the edge of the seat as he helped her out of the car head first.

Or some such Bullocks.

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MaudTheInvincible · 27/10/2020 13:13

This is awful. It sends a clear message about how valued women are in society.

I was going to write 'in our society', but it's not 'ours' at all is it? It's theirs, and any status we are given is purely by their gracious indulgence and can be removed at any time.

user147425843578 · 27/10/2020 13:13

Juries don't like convicting police officers.

Killings like this happen because of the society we have constructed so it makes sense that our society's institutions and jurors rarely do anything useful in response.

"Innocent until proven guilty" exists purely as a legal fiction meaning the state can't impose punishment on a person.

It doesn't mean the person is considered factually innocent or that anybody else has to treat them as innocent.

That is the only way I can cope with the situation. Legal fictions don't mean anything. The system is not about delivering justice in the sense that you mean it, it's about delivering judgments based on the current set of laws created by people.

None of which makes it ok. All I am saying is that if you expect the criminal justice system to deliver fairness and truth you will always be disappointed and it will eat you up inside.

MedusasBadHairDay · 27/10/2020 13:12

This is horrifying

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/10/2020 13:11

I'm baffled by this. How is it possible to strangle someone by accident? This man was a police officer and must have had training on restraint, so should have been more aware than the average person how dangerous it is to compress the neck.

Poor woman.

GroundAlmonds · 27/10/2020 13:11

Yes. Hopefully the prosecution will file an appeal. Kicking up a fuss can only help.

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