For anyone who thinks calling pregnant women 'birthing people' is not a big deal, here's where that leads

Why can’t it be women and menstartures why obliterate women?

Tough shit, it’s inclusive. It’s kind

You don't remove the language that half the planet use to refer to themselves just in case it upsets the feelings of a teeny tiny proportion of that spits their dummy out and has a tantrum.

If the words women and female are so devastating, because they remind them that they can never, ever identify out of their biological sex, then they perhaps they should spend some of the many millions thrown at the TRA's on mental health care to help them function in society without being so fucking triggered by life, rather than stripping away female sex based rights.

Those same sex based rights that will still apply to them regardless of their identity.

Those removing our words because they don't have the balls to say no to the penis owners are even worse.

Thank you Hecates. Our regular teacher was a woman, she was so lovely and understanding, would have been avoided if she were there. That male one was just so cold.

It's why it makes me so sad too, when people just flat out refuse to believe that women, and particularly girls in school, really do need their space away from males to sort themselves. It's not a selfish expectation, it's absolutely essential.

Screw that supply teacher yourhairiswinterfire and kudos to you for standing up to walk out of there, but mostly a big, big hug . You should never have had to feel ashamed. They. Have. No. Idea.

Ridiculously, women with PCOS often don't menstruate or have massive problems with menstruation such as not have periods for months and then having periods for weeks and months on end. Calling them menstruators seems like a particular kick in the teeth!

HecatesCats Pisses me off when I get told we're ''privileged'' because at least we get periods They don't have a fucking clue.

When I was a student, my class was taken over by a supply teacher who refused to let me go to the toilet to sort out an emergency because 'you should have gone at lunch break', the prick. I was trying to discreetly explain to him, and that caught the attention of the class who assumed I'd pissed myself because I was whispering and desperate, and they started laughing at me.

So I thought fuck it, and in absolute agony, in a mess, and fucking humiliated, I stood up to walk out and passed out because of that combo of feelings. Dealing with extreme anxiety and depression at the time too and seriously considered ending my life so I didn't have to face that class again. I still cry sometimes even now thinking back to how ashamed I felt. Because of a period.

So fucking privileged. I'd curse the jealous bastards with mine in a heartbeat if it were possible.

Interesting how men's health organisations really seem to be under no pressure to find euphemisms for men. An example twitter.com/ProstateUK/status/1318217098171191298

How about when menstruation has been an absolute nightmare since you were a teenager? Off school, lying on your back with your legs up against the wall because your mum says that'll sort the agony. Passing blood clots the size of your palm and bleeding through your school skirt onto the seat so that you have to sit there and wait for everyone to leave so you can tell the teacher, your face burning up, that they need to clean the chair. My menses have been a nightmare, I couldn't wait to have the coil fitted after I had my second child. They have been a huge and influential part of my womanhood. I'd go so far as to say tying me solely to menstruation as part of my identity is pretty triggering, I still need to buy sanitary products because some months I have an unpredictable bleeds, but I'm not strictly speaking a menstruator. So what am I?! I know...... why not use that instead?

I have never watched chick flicks or used a hot water bottle for anything. But it is acceptable to say that "we've all been there" because only fluffy stereotypes about women are used in that statement but nothing about what it means to live in a female body.

Did anyone notice “ We’ve all been there – curled up on the sofa with a hot water bottle, a bar of chocolate and a good chick flick streaming on Netflix.”

What the fuck is a chick? Shouldn't they be saying menstruator flick?

Fucking chick. The sleazy shit bag men's word for women from the 70s is ok, but woman isn't.

I would call them cunts but that's actually too good for them.

Delirium but how is it kind to refer to someone with a pos-related miscarriage as a menstruator? Surely their menstruation itself is a painful indication that a wanted pregnancy is no longer going ahead?

And what about the many many women who find the term offensive, reductive, cold, upsetting, and not a label they want? Why is a label which someone wants to use defined as kind when many of the people it refers to take it as unkind? Who wins this game of top trumps and gets to define what kind is, and who gets bequeathed kindness and who has to shut the fuck up and be treated like crap?

Oh, a biological man gets to decide? Of course, how did I not guess...

So menstruator will become hate speech in three, two...…

I mean you have to laugh

💔 No words...

Tough shit, it’s inclusive. It’s kind.

I can't imagine a transman would be overjoyed at being called a menstruator either.

So we should probably start lobbying them. I am thinking of good alternatives. Ejaculators, prostate-owners, bepenised people, erectors.

As anyone lobbied male focused charities to change their language?

But look at their twitter feed. And look at how many followers they have

They are a bunch of grifters

Going to explore a bit more

@Clymene

It's so reductive

Because it's inevitable that a word specifically for that collective class *is needed when talking about things regarding that collective class that require shared meaning.

Yeah. Too cynical now to summon up the will to point out the sheer dickish insensitivity of this, but I will signpost the obvious point.

They have made the whopping mistake of using 'menstruator' to mean woman. Adult human female. Because it's inevitable that a word for that collective class. Mistake because it gets in the way of the point, which was supposedly that biological function wasn't sex connected: they're calling pregnant people etc menstruators when they really aren't menstruating.

So we have the whole dehumanising. The reducing of women to body parts. The half assed attempt to join the pretence that there's no such thing as women by replacing one word for another. And any second now the outrage will start that there's a word in disguise meaning 'woman' that's attached to a female anatomy only bodily function and this is exclusionary to male born people.

So menstruator will become hate speech in three, two...…

I well recall the horror of ‘menstruating’ while pregnant (miscarriages).

That’s heartbreaking, Dozer.

Shame on Femcare. I wonder why they alienate their target audience? I wouldn’t seek help from an organisation that shows such contempt for women.

This language upsets me so much. I don't understand how WE are the ones accused of 'reducing people to body parts' when all we ask for is that female human beings be referred to as women. I'm not a fucking menstruator. My university has just been boasting about how much it's going to do for "Movember" - apparently there will be loads of activities to raise money and awareness for "men's" health and "male" mental health issues. As blood usual, there isn't a single 'ejaculator' or 'prostate-haver' to be seen. Men get the dignity to be called men, and meanwhile I am literally referenced by my reproductive function.

I am so angry about this. What the hell are they playing at?

I wonder if overt cases like this could actually be effective at convincing some of the well-intentioned (but naive) wokies that removal of the word "woman" actually has serious consequences, and that "be kind" can work multiple ways. This kind of language, used in this context, is so clearly inappropriate, that I would hope it might stir a few brain cells.

Probably wishful thinking, but one can hope.