Jessica Yaniv files human rights complaint against beauty pageant

I thought the neighbours were suing them back? How bloody exhausting but I guess it’s better than getting a job.

meowmix.org/ Is the site where you can find Jessica Yaniv Simpson updates, videos, legal documents etc

He is currently suing the Township of Langley and his neighbours the Choos amongst others

I think the Mr Gay England contestant is a drag king not trans man.

Can someone pro-JY/ pro-trans rights make the case to me why JY deserves 10,000 CAD for finding out that they're not eligible to enter a competition after all?

Wasn’t JY charged with assault for when they chased that reporter and beat him with a cane? The footage is on YouTube (it’s bizarre, JY yelling “leave me alone” whilst chasing after and physically assaulting the reporter). It seemed a clear cut conviction, what happened with that?

If Yaniv ever gets this compo money will they use it to transition

Good point well made!

Perhaps there should be a "Male sexual predator masquerading as female to invade female spaces" competition, eh?

You're a better woman than I, Deacon.

Personally I have been laughing like a drain at the thought of Yaniv, who (whichever "gendah" he is presenting as at the time - NB using "he" because anyone who fantasises online about wanting to help young girls insert their first tampon is a male sexual predator) looks like he hit every branch of the ugly tree on the way down - that Yaniv, sueing a beauty pageant for his human right to enter.

If it was used as the plot of the next Borat film, you'd think it was too far fetched.

Famous last words- there is one trans man competing for Mr Gay England. The individual has made it through to the finals and I fully expect that he will win.

So I think there's a point to be made there about male socialisation, the arrogance of a mediocre male etc. In the same way as some men feel entitled to the attention of beautiful women: this is a variant on that same theme. I'm not suggesting it's top of the list of things to be critical of Yaniv for, but I think it's rather telling. I can't ever think of a trans man having done something like this. Female socialisation takes care of that!

Also totally agree @Meowza74

From memory, the women only won in the previous court case, because they had not been trained to wax scrotums. It wasn't about whether it was acceptable or not. Just about whether they had the correct training.

Again from memory, it appeared that the judge grabbed onto that top layer issue with great relief that it could all stop there and so there was no need to dig down into much, much more contentious issues that would have raised one hell of a lot of questions about the law, and quite possibly ended with a verdict that hurled spanners into the national woke strategy.

This time they may be forced to unpack all of this a lot more thoroughly.

Totally agree Meowza74

Absolute bag of shite is Yaniv.

I think he could win this one.

Because if trans woman are women, then surely a women is a trans woman?

This is poor logic. Same as saying "If women are human, surely humans are women?"

It's the fact that there is no definition of trans woman (if you deny the existence of sex) that means women can identify as trans women too. Or perhaps there is a definition of trans woman but it would mean saying that by definition they are born biologically male, which can be a contentious thing to say.

I like your logic, @KenDodd (worthy of your namesake). Who wants to sponsor me for Miss TransgenderUK? I'm sure the organisers will be inclusive and treat my lack of male genitalia with kindness.

I'm not sure that the court will be able to find against Yaniv. I can't think what arguments would be accepted by the court as allowing a beauty pageant to exclude someone who identifies as female, on the basis of their genitalia. I'm just basing this on what I know of Yaniv's previous cases, and the situation in Canadian prisons. I hope the whole thing receives some really good coverage.

Shouldn't he be here telling us all that this never happens, there are no creeps out there, etc etc

Safeguards should be in place
Bad behaviour not tolerated
Something about organisers being happy with their policies....

Others shouldn't he looking at their body parts if they didn't consent.. etc etc etc

They are noticeable by their absence when there is absolutely no getting out of the danger involved is there...

Well there's still mental instability to discuss suppose but they with it enough to know who to target and how and when to call.police etc

You gotta love it,, she thinks even junk non withstanding she should be in a beauty pageant 😂, they are for beautiful people clues in the name, more front than a cruise liner.

Because if trans woman are women, then surely a women is a trans woman?

There’s also a Miss Transgender UK competition

I wonder what would have if a woman tried to enter? Would they bar her arguing that a woman is NOT a trans woman?