Women at Doha airport were removed from flights and forced to undergo invasive internal inspection in an ambulance on the tarmac

The perpetrators of this have been prosecuted - it was in Doha News today

I for one think they’ve prosecuted a coupke of scapegoats to appease the western world.

It won’t change anything.

It's very interesting indeed.

I hope the baby is okay. Sunlight needs to be shone onto the treatment of women everywhere. No more of this cultural relativism to justify violence and subjugation of other women, as if they don't experience suffering in the same way a Western woman would.

No more of this idea that women's rights are not rights, just privileges that we can relinguish if we step in the wrong airport.

I'm sure there's more it's worth looking into.

Anyway.

The idea that women could go for a bit of cash and that would make them happy and shut up from the male lawyer, when contrasted with the female lawyer saying they could go for human rights and make this really well publicised and spoken about etc, is interesting.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-50136925

Here you go.

Wherever you obviously missed the scandal where they refused to pay victims of CSA as they said they were victims 'in law but not in fact' then.

I don't know how far those barriers go for victims of sex offences tbh.

@feesh

They havent been prosecuted yet. Wait and see what actually happens once the heat has died down.

Which is fine but there's also a whole cultural structure underpinning this. The assumption that this was a reasonable course of action didn't come from nowhere. And let's be honest, their main mistake was choosing Australians.

www.gov.uk/claim-compensation-criminal-injury

@NiceGerbil
It's for any violent crime, and it's actually a good scheme since many people end up unable to work or suffer life changing consequences (mental or physical) after a violent crime of sex attack.

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/qatar-says-staff-who-searched-australian-women-at-doha-airport-committed-illegal-actions/ar-BB1axocN

The perpetrators of this have been prosecuted - it was in Doha News today.

Wherever is that the 'these girls were victims of grooming and organised prolonged sexual abuse is law but not in fact' compensation scheme?

Women and girls.

Puberty up obviously.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/oct/29/two-british-women-subjected-qatar-strip-search-ordeal-uk-confirms

Two British women were examined. The mother of the baby is yet to be found.

Eighteen women on the Australian flight were examined and 10 flights were affected. That must be over 100 women who had this done to them. Truly awful.

@NiceGerbil

If you're the victim of a crime you can claim compensation, which is paid by the government. It doesnt need to go to trial.

I dont agree that people making rape allegations are doing it for the payment, but when people say they're just doing it for money, that's what they mean.

Any more about the other flights yet? Or if the woman was found?Why hasn’t this been publicised more. It is inexcusable that any state treats any woman like this. Yes hit them financially and in trade deals, but above all acknowledge that women are worthless in that world.

the Australian ABC news is reporting that officials at Qatar international airport have been referred to prosecutors for possible charges

www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-30/qatar-female-passenger-examination-officials-referred-prosecutor/12834192

Yes definitely. I never flew Qatar in the first place and had no intention of either doing so or visiting, so they won't miss my custom. But I hope those who did will make a fuss about no longer doing so

I flew them once. I actually thought they were an excellent airline. But never again.

I don't know how to put this, but it would have to be an awfully big financial hit to really hurt the Qatari state. They can afford to abuse women and pay for it later.

I think the best way to hit them in the pocket would be if this awful episode were given more publicity than it is currently receiving. I think if women generally knew that this is a possibility they would choose not to fly Qatar Airways - that would hit them in the pocket.

Although I do actually think some hitting in the pocket is in order here. Will probably have more of a deterrent effect for the future than anything else.

The assumption that these women will want a bit of dosh to shut up and won't give two fucks about anyone else this might be done to, from the male lawyer, is interesting but not surprising

Yeah - that was really disgusting. It's as if men can do what they want to women as long as they pay them.

There's a big difference between leaving a baby somewhere where it is safe and will be found and hiding it in a plastic bag in a bin

So you are saying there is no justification for this? That it doesn’t matter what her mental health status is, or how terrible her circumstances, or what the consequences for her are?

It may have been her only option. That the baby died and was never found nay have been her only choice.

She may have been “badly behaved”, but the punishment for having this baby may have been far, far, worse.

It is unlikely this was any sort of “choice” for this poor woman.

People can express their outrage that qatar treat women like this all they want. It doesn’t change that womans fate.

This is the ME. It would not have been a happy reunion. If they find her it will not be medical help and counselling.

What they haven't told us yet is whether any of the females subjected to digital penetration at gunpoint were young.

My DDs 11 and 13 I'm assuming would have been assaulted in this way if we were on the flight. I don't see any reason they wouldn't be. They both started their periods ages ago and have breasts etc.

Of course for other women there's a chance that they hadn't been penetrated before, especially the younger ones.

No one seems to be considering that or asking that question in the news.

The guardian article is interesting in that the male lawyer consulted keeps banging on about them being able to get cash compensation while the female one focuses more on whether they can do anything around human rights laws etc

The assumption that these women will want a bit of dosh to shut up and won't give two fucks about anyone else this might be done to, from the male lawyer, is interesting but not surprising.

When women are raped for eg lots of men say oh she's after money (how you get money for being raped is never explained).