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Tampax getting ratioed

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Awning10 · 24/10/2020 08:29

twitter.com/Tampax/status/1305952342504767491

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InFlagranteDerelicto · 25/10/2020 10:50

Tampax is owned by P&G. You can also boycott their other products: Always®, Ambi Pur®, Ariel®, Bounty®, Charmin®, Crest®, Dawn®, Downy®, Fairy®, Febreze®, Gain®, Gillette®, Head & Shoulders®, Lenor®, Olay®, Oral-B®, Pampers®, Pantene®, SK-II®, Tide®, Vicks®, and Whisper®."

Excellent. Thanks for that list. Bounty were already on it, the fuckers.

Malahaha · 25/10/2020 10:44

I'd never heard about reusable pads until I was looking at period pants in the hope to completely forgo use of sanitary towels. I shall definitely be shouting about them, and researching green(er) companies who support women and girls.

@tattooedmummy1 I recently bought the lightest version of these --
www.ecoperiod.co/
not because I get periods (i don't any more!) but hoping to find a working substitute for Tena Lady. Blush They use the word "women".

ErrolTheDragon · 25/10/2020 10:03

@gardenbird48

I’d also question whether ‘bleed’ is a helpful way to describe having a period.

Is this specific wording to do with the way that some male bodied transgender people are trying to claim that they ‘have periods’ but they just don’t have the bleeding part?

Separating the ‘bleeding’ from the rest of the monthly cycle makes it easier for some people to claim the changes generated by monthly of cycling cross sex hormones as ‘periods’.
Will the concept of periods eventually move to be seen as a function of cross sex hormones and ‘bleeding’ becomes the thing that the ‘non trans women’ do?

It's more likely simply because bleeding is the aspect of menstruation which requires a tampon or other absorbent items. I think sometimes we overanalyse!
gardenbird48 · 25/10/2020 09:16

I’d also question whether ‘bleed’ is a helpful way to describe having a period.

Is this specific wording to do with the way that some male bodied transgender people are trying to claim that they ‘have periods’ but they just don’t have the bleeding part?

Separating the ‘bleeding’ from the rest of the monthly cycle makes it easier for some people to claim the changes generated by monthly of cycling cross sex hormones as ‘periods’.
Will the concept of periods eventually move to be seen as a function of cross sex hormones and ‘bleeding’ becomes the thing that the ‘non trans women’ do?

Datun · 25/10/2020 09:16

@merrymouse

We have progressed smoothly from talking vaguely about ‘women’s problems’ to insisting that ‘women’s problems’ no longer exist.
Yes.

And it's not coming from transmen. It's not transmen who have to detach the word woman from biology. To them, they're not women. It's TRA transwomen who want the word woman to never be based on biology.

There's no way companies across the board are using chest feeder, menstruator, birthing person, cervix haver, etc because they are listening intently to what a vanishingly small minority of women are saying. Women's voices aren't that powerful. Look at the pushback - huge, but largely ignored.

Transmen are being used to legitimise it.

Munro Bergdorf insisted that women not focus on their 'reproductive' biology at the women's march. Pussy hats were negative and divisive. Not every 'woman' has one, etc. Loads of narratives about how women's biology is exclusionary, because not every...etc.

This is a determined effort to make 'womanhood' absolutely nothing to do with being an actual woman.

And yes, every contemptuous misogynist who would enjoy referring to women as 'bleeders, breeders and feeders' is enthusiastically joining in. And gets a medal for being 'progressive' too.

TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 25/10/2020 09:07

Tampax is owned by P&G. You can also boycott their other products: Always®, Ambi Pur®, Ariel®, Bounty®, Charmin®, Crest®, Dawn®, Downy®, Fairy®, Febreze®, Gain®, Gillette®, Head & Shoulders®, Lenor®, Olay®, Oral-B®, Pampers®, Pantene®, SK-II®, Tide®, Vicks®, and Whisper®."

Well there's a bonus to shopping at Aldi - the only thing I have from those people is some Vicks (I have a sainsburies one somewhere too, so I'll just skip to an own brand when it's time to refill).

Weird seeing SK-II on there - I had something of theirs ages ago, some 'special water' you were supposed to splash on your face twice a day, which was supposedly some Sake by-product. I credit that product with coming to my senses about the whole fancy face/hair product industry, when I realised the ridiculous thing I was dedicatedly doing morning and evening and expecting miracles!

Winesalot · 25/10/2020 09:03

We all ‘bleed’. That’s what makes this a targeting fail on the marketing department side. Those of us who menstruate may not consider this ‘bleeding’ because it is a nature phenomenon that is different completely to being injured.

If they are wanting to discuss alternative usage of their product as a medical aid for injuries, that is very different. I think this is actually a fail on many levels. Dehumanising language, mixed messages etc. if anyone thought this was inclusive, they obviously like dehumanizing language and clinical detachment. As a woman, this totally misses the mark for me. But obviously, I am no longer important to this company despite being a current menstruator and I was a customer of decades standing.

PurpleHoodie · 25/10/2020 08:57

"Lilith

@SeasonVelvet

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20h

Replying to

@Tampax

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@gobeeharris

Tampax is owned by P&G. You can also boycott their other products: Always®, Ambi Pur®, Ariel®, Bounty®, Charmin®, Crest®, Dawn®, Downy®, Fairy®, Febreze®, Gain®, Gillette®, Head & Shoulders®, Lenor®, Olay®, Oral-B®, Pampers®, Pantene®, SK-II®, Tide®, Vicks®, and Whisper®."

Something to consider.

PurpleHoodie · 25/10/2020 08:56

"Lilith

@SeasonVelvet

·

20h

Replying to

@Tampax

and

@gobeeharris

Tampax is owned by P&G. You can also boycott their other products: Always®, Ambi Pur®, Ariel®, Bounty®, Charmin®, Crest®, Dawn®, Downy®, Fairy®, Febreze®, Gain®, Gillette®, Head & Shoulders®, Lenor®, Olay®, Oral-B®, Pampers®, Pantene®, SK-II®, Tide®, Vicks®, and Whisper®."

Something to consider.

merrymouse · 25/10/2020 08:51

We have progressed smoothly from talking vaguely about ‘women’s problems’ to insisting that ‘women’s problems’ no longer exist.

StanfordPines · 25/10/2020 08:50

Perhaps, just perhaps, women are fed up with being told what we are and how to be by men. Now we are being told that men are in fact women to, by men.
So I’m sorry if we are pissed of at men and we know that not all men are like that. But just let us own the word woman please.

testing987654321 · 25/10/2020 08:47

I’d also question whether ‘bleed’ is a helpful way to describe having a period.

It's not a word I have ever used in my 40 or so years of having periods. I would use bleeding in the context of an injury, and it would need to be stopped before it becomes life threatening. Of course that does apply to absolutely everyone.

Whatwouldscullydo · 25/10/2020 08:46

Believe me many mej appear to enjoy the excuse to be extremely misogynistic and sexist. This provides the perfect cover for such behaviour and opinions.

Check out the hashtag in the tweets to see what it really is that males think of us. Theres pouting and underwear picks galore.

jdoejnr1 · 25/10/2020 08:43

@mum2jakie

I don't think there have been negative comments about men on this thread? The negativity is aimed at a company prepared to alienate women by trying to pretend that anyone needing their products isn't actually a woman. All this shit about 'myths' when we all know what the real myth is!

And I've spent years not having periods as an adult woman - thanks to several pregnancies and breastfeeding three kids through to weaning - I never felt that I needed to be singled out in Tampax marketing. "Not all women bleed" Hmm

"Males really have nothing in their tiny brains/lives if they have time to come up with this bullshit."
merrymouse · 25/10/2020 08:42

Surely they are trying to include transgender men. Transgender men still bleed every month and I’m guessing here, don’t like being labelled as a woman?

While it’s possible to sympathise with somebody who feels distress about gender, sex exists and we need language to express that.

Insisting that anyone can get a period or that there is no concept (sex) that links the experiences of menopause, menstruation, pregnancy etc. just pushes women back into the dark ages.

It’s ironic that so many organisations claim to be removing stigma around periods when they are creating stigma around sex.

I’d also question whether ‘bleed’ is a helpful way to describe having a period.

jdoejnr1 · 25/10/2020 08:41

@Babdoc

jdoejnr1, I doubt that it’s transmen causing this nonsense. They were raised and socialised as girls, so lack the sense of entitlement. It is more likely being driven by men. Men who run advertising campaigns, and who want to virtue signal in hope of scoring woke cookies from brainwashed young female trans ally handmaidens. Let’s hope the absolute torrent of outrage they’ve received on Twatter will make the idiots think again about the stupidity of offending their core market. Women.
I meant male to female rather than female to male. As in its biological men who are transitioning. Poorly worded by me.
FairFridaythe13th · 25/10/2020 08:40

They do - on twitter. Funny how they arent taken as seriously though.

Plus there is a hell of a lot fewer transsexual males than transgender youth who are pushing a very different agenda and belief in sex.

Winesalot · 25/10/2020 08:38

@StanfordPines

Transmen aren’t causing the issue at all.
Then maybe they need to speak up and maybe this dehumanising language can all be a thing of the past.
FairFridaythe13th · 25/10/2020 08:38

It was a trans man who got Always to drop the female symbol wasn’t it?

FairFridaythe13th · 25/10/2020 08:37

Outrage won’t - loss of sales will. It’s all about money. If they thought referring to customers as ‘kumquats’ would increase sales they would.

Whatwouldscullydo · 25/10/2020 08:36

Wonen aren't listened too. Even where they ID as men.

If they were then the scented rash causing shit would have been withdrawn as thousands if women complained. And women also complained when sold shitty pads in Africa.

As you can also see women also complain and get ignored and blocked when telling them how offensive being labeled a bleeder is.

They may let the odd transman take the odd win to divert from the fact that women aren't listened too even when a product is exclusively for them. But women had no part in this

Babdoc · 25/10/2020 08:36

jdoejnr1, I doubt that it’s transmen causing this nonsense. They were raised and socialised as girls, so lack the sense of entitlement.
It is more likely being driven by men. Men who run advertising campaigns, and who want to virtue signal in hope of scoring woke cookies from brainwashed young female trans ally handmaidens.
Let’s hope the absolute torrent of outrage they’ve received on Twatter will make the idiots think again about the stupidity of offending their core market. Women.

FairFridaythe13th · 25/10/2020 08:35

The only ones I see pop up on twitter most certainly aren’t.

It seems to be people who aren’t actually under the umbrella (in the traditional sense) and are just ‘at it’ (as my dad used to say).

StanfordPines · 25/10/2020 08:34

If it was transmen who were the ones getting upset then why are products for men almost always labelled as such? Why are transmen not getting upset that they are not the kind of man who has a penis and therefore don’t require penis related products.

mum2jakie · 25/10/2020 08:34

I don't think there have been negative comments about men on this thread? The negativity is aimed at a company prepared to alienate women by trying to pretend that anyone needing their products isn't actually a woman. All this shit about 'myths' when we all know what the real myth is!

And I've spent years not having periods as an adult woman - thanks to several pregnancies and breastfeeding three kids through to weaning - I never felt that I needed to be singled out in Tampax marketing. "Not all women bleed" Hmm

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