Tampax getting ratioed

Ah but consumers these days are far less brand loyal. The do need to remember that.

And yes, had it said ‘women and others who menstruate’ then I’d have been more than fine with it.

Yeah, this one is at least unintentionally hilarious. So there's that.

Love how he thinks that’s the first we’ve noticed 🤣

And then he's amazed, later, when he finds he's on an MRA block list?

twitter.com/boredlacanian/status/1319980668160540673

Poor little lamb. How could the nasty ladies not recognise his abusive behaviour to women is the nice kind, the good kind, the sort where people with penises tell women that only people with penises define womanhood? Great checklist provided by a Twitterer though, thanks for whoever created it.

I think they need to analyse their millennial market more carefully.

I'm a millennial and very woke. I have been found all over MN lecturing people about inclusion and exclusion for years. However, I'm an equal opportunities SJW, so although I'm inclined to like a company that says, "women and others who menstruate"/"women with a cervix", I also listened when other people pointed out why only saying "people with a cervix" was exclusionary.

So I won't financially support Tampax et al because I'm a woke millennial. There have got to be more of us out there.

Bloody hell, that reply.

This reply v telling

They only care about their millennials and Gen Z market. Because they are the ones pushing the agenda and blackmailing to boycott companies. Not just agenda on transgenders but other minorities that want power now.

Does people do not think that these are the reasons why populism is back and thriving? Do not ask why certain people get elected.

Fact: Not all women have periods Yes, some have reached menopause so they do not get periods anymore.

@movingonup20 thanks!

testing
"I’d also question whether ‘bleed’ is a helpful way to describe having a period."
It's not a word I have ever used in my 40 or so years of having periods. I would use bleeding in the context of an injury, and it would need to be stopped before it becomes life threatening. Of course that does apply to absolutely everyone.

When I was at school, and for many years afterwards, having a menstrual period was pretty-much universally called "having the curse" or "being cursed", with a period just being "the curse". In the future tense, as for instance getting out of a swimming lesson next week, "I can't go to that, I'll be cursed." (In the pre-tampon days you couldn't swim if you would bleed into the water, obviously.)

What has always slightly bewildered me is that men seem to want to lay claim to something which we accurately regarded as a thoroughly bad thing and a defect in the design of the reproductive system, or as we used to say a bloody nuisance.

No one says 'oh no, I'm just one of those women who doesn't have them shrug'

You’d hope not, but given the prevalence of eating disorders and the prevailing attitude that many medical conditions that only affect women are ‘normal’ I’m sure that many do just shrug, and this tweet endorses that.

This is also why I think ‘bleed’ is unhelpful. It implies that a period should be traumatic and painful.

And as you say, if you are a woman and you don't have periods there is a distinct reason for that, whether that be drugs, malnutrition, menopause, pregnancy etc. No one says 'oh no, I'm just one of those women who doesn't have them shrug'

‘not all women have periods’ is also dangerously misleading as a throw away progressive slogan, because while ‘not having a period’ doesn’t mean a woman is less of a woman, it IS a sign of a medical condition, whether that is menopause, pregnancy, malnutrition or something else.

The way I read it-- to these advertisers with anything women related, transwomen come first, are recognised first, are most important.

Given that this was never in dispute (menopause not being a recent discovery) it’s difficult to conclude otherwise.

What the hell is with the 'Fact: not all women have periods' thing

The way I read it-- to these advertisers with anything women related, transwomen come first, are recognised first, are most important. Because face it, they were not meaning woman in 'not all women...' were they. First sentence, most important people dealt with (and bowed to) then we can move over to these others. Too cynical?

It's more likely simply because bleeding is the aspect of menstruation which requires a tampon or other absorbent items. I think sometimes we overanalyse!

I spend my life overanalysing but I didn’t mean that was the intention of Tampax, but potentially the intention of the activists who raised it as an issue to Tampax. The use of the term bleeding reminded me of a number of tweets I have seen from people who are keen to ‘experience’ what they define as periods and seem determined to prove that their experience is authentic.

Although reading it again, it seems to be more focused on the trans men side of things so I am probably just overthinking.

What the hell is with the 'Fact: not all women have periods' thing as well? As if we don't know that? It's hardly a 'myth'. They only say that in the context of then swooping in with 'Fact: not all people who have periods are women'. It feels like it's just using women who don't have periods to prop up and argument or something?

I had chemotherapy a few years ago and it stopped my periods because it shut down my FEMALE reproductive system. I was well aware that this was the reason that I was no longer having periods, rather than that chemo, amongst other delights, had turned me into a bloke!

You simply don't get to define what other people are

great!!!

Then stop defining me as not having a biological identity, stop inflicting your personal language choices and world views on me and respect my self definition that I am an adult human female who does not have a gender and is an atheist in identity politics. And therefore needs single sex spaces.

Accept that and we can live and let live, and we'll get alone fine.

Either it goes equally both ways or it isn't a value, it's just a basis for inequality and control.

I found this little gem on the tampax thread (hopefully the picture works!).
Apparently we aren't allowed to define others by their physical characteristics...
Then could you please stop calling me cis?