Tampax getting ratioed

When I think about how language is evolving into 'men' and 'bleeders/ovary-havers/vulva-owners/individualswithacervix' I keep thinking of how the marriage vows might change. "John Smith, will you have this uterus-bearer as your wedded wife."

That is stupid. But it is interesting how 'woman' has been turned into an abstract identity with no relationship to one's biological body while 'man' is still linked to the male body. This difference is such a clear example of sexism, yet the progressives are erasing our ability to even talk about sexism, what with it being sex-based.

So say women and transmen. Don’t pretend that anyone can have a period or that the significance of not having a period is the same for men and women.

How is that so difficult to understand?

The language used by tampax just creates stigma and taboo around the word ‘woman’ and makes it difficult to talk coherently about periods.

It’s understandable that people who suffer from dysphoria feel more comfortable using language that distances them from their biological sex, but that language is not generally helpful to women who just need to use language honestly and clearly.

Menstrual cups are amazing. They feel cleaner, fresher and I'm almost sure my period pain has been improved by using these.

I'll never go back to disposable products again.

As for this latest push to 'inclusivity', it's ironic given those who are being excluded are the vastly overwhelming majority of their customers. It's now come to the stage where 'woman' is viewed as some kind of filthy, unutterable word, and I find that profoundly offensive. Not to mention it's difficult to see how that word could be so intensely triggering if bleeding out of your vag and enduring the mess and pain associated with that exclusively female function, isn't.

Wellbehaved

Yes of course you're right. I was thinking of a particular tablet (nothing to do with contraceptive) I would take if I had a period at an inopportune moment like on holiday, norathisterine (sp?) but of course that's not feisable long term.

Oooh a year off that's lovely! I was one of those freakishly unlucky types who breastfed but it came back at 7 weeks 🙄

It's in the Dailymail now. Although the article does include this gem of a line * 'being carried out by 'T🤢RFs' - trans-exclusionary radical feminists*.

I wish journalists would follow it up with which is an abusive term used to slur women who do not agree with gender ideology.

When I was on the shot, I bled pretty much solidly for months, albeit lightly, which is the exact opposite of what is meant to happen, and as it lasts for those months there was nothing anyone could do until it wore off. (Given I was only on it because I had horrible periods, that was fun.)

Ideally, yes I'd have loved to do that. Breastfeeding was amazing because I didn't have a period for the best part of a year.

This post will probably get deleted but I also think the same about a trans man who gets pregnant. How can they go through pregnancy and birth when they have gender dysphoria as it's such a profoundly female experience?

Even disregarding any offense caused by the Fact: blahblahgendequeerblahblsh stuff it's all so incoherent. Nothing can be communicated clearly and concisely by this tosh as evidenced by everyone who has a go at it. Sooner or later the incoherence is going to bring it to an end. You can just imagine the discussion about bad reactions to PR when the numpties try to explain internally at Tampax what they meant about all people bleeding and the expensive brand management people holding their heads in their hands.

They might as well be advertising Band Aid.

Procter & Gamble brands

#GoWokeGoBroke

Excuse my ignorance but as a transman... Would you not wish to take pills to stop your period? I hate periods but I accept they are part of my capacity to have children. If this wasn't on the table for me I would take suppressants.

Yes, where’s the natty little diagram showing them how to use them.

A multitude of places. None needing a tampon though.

OK I have to ask where do males bleed from?

None of the decent men, or decent transwomen, whom I know would dream of invading women's spaces uninvited.

Hellfire, I have been asked by a transwoman if I was ok with her using the women's section of a communal sauna at the same time as me -- which of course I was because she was female enough to bloody well ask and not just assume I was ok with it. She may be a TRA (which I am fairly sure in some respects she is) but she has the common good sense and manners to consider the feelings of members of the sex she wants to be regarded as being. And if there had been a neutral area of that sauna I am sure she would have used that instead.

I'm so sick of the woman hatred they so freely unleash. And it's all so unnecessary, too. I think most women would gladly fight for parallel provision for trans people - however they identify - in seeking safety from angry, misogynist, homophobic men. It's the ones who are those angry, misogynist and homophobic males who scare us, and with bloody good reason, and the best way of telling them apart is seeing which are screaming most loudly for access to our spaces, and which show most contempt, and most entitlement, when we say 'no'. Because the decent ones want their own provision; they recognise that sex and gender, body and mind, are different things, and that we are human beings too.

Reminds of that comment by a TRA re spaces, the one that ended “enjoy your erasure”

Yes there are some excellent ones. I had a good hunt after Always went rogue. It’s amazing how many good brands there are when you don’t even consider it.

Given that this was never in dispute (menopause not being a recent discovery) it’s difficult to conclude otherwise.

Well yes. Have menopausal women, women with a Mirena coil, pregnant women etc ever complained before about 'feeling excluded' from adverts talking about 'women's periods'? Of course not, this seems to be a new phenomenon. I have certainly never felt 'excluded'.

So the 'women' they are talking about when the educate us about the fact that 'some women don't have periods' must be... Men.

I just went and researched which tampon brands I'd be happy to buy. And there are several.

Inclusive should mean just that. Erasing women is not inclusive - it's misogynist. You can add, not subtract. Most young women are more than capable of understanding the distinction.

I don’t have a daughter - but DH and DS are well aware of the brands that don’t get houseroom here and why.

If you can get a 14 year old using your product now she’ll most likely stay loyal and then pass that on to her daughters.

It's not the 14 year olds doing the buying though, is it? You're right that it comes from the mum to daughter. And I won't be buying Tampax for my daughter - despite that being my own mother, and then my own, brand.

Fucking chilling.

And a more correct statement would be "we still make the rules"

Because male bodied people must always, always get the final say when it comes to language, freedom of expression and women's safety and security.