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BBC Bitsize - Pronouns

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OhHolyJesus · 22/10/2020 09:27

I mean I'm not surprised but Bitesize is used by schools through the country as a supposed reliable, unbiased source of education material.

mobile.twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1319025713475952641?fbclid=IwAR0rTBD2j5PKOeTKvYSSX90c4RUDmJDo7Zg613qnDBXNaAncv3J8epYWLSQ

You can complain here:

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint

Or email your MP and cc MPs Safe Schools Alliance on info@safeschoolsallianceuk.

In the tweet thread there are some people already complaining. I'm not a defund the BBC kind of person but I can see why license fee layers are questioning what the BBC are doing with their money (there is a website 'BBC complaints' that's all about biased Brexit coverage).

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Datun · 24/10/2020 15:39

@FloralBunting

Jaysus, is it possible that we are in a representative democracy and can contact members of the houses of parliament and the lords to represent our interests in the halls of power?

Nay! Twas there ever such a rum idea, guvnor!

Nooooo.

You're only allowed to do a bit of marching.

Do not dare write an articulate letter to your MP, anyone in the House of Lords, or the equalities minister.

Butterer · 24/10/2020 15:37

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/10/2020 15:37

Those 'vanity court cases' being your dismissive reframing of women and girls rights and equality.

Yes. I don't think jj can help themselves. The misogyny will out.

midgebabe · 24/10/2020 15:36

Yes, some people will vote for someone who they don't totally agree with

Can't say I have ever voted Tory though, I mean really, there are limits, I won't be insulted on this occasion.

But that doesn't stop me trying to influence people with power.

if you had to agree with everything someone said, you would never vote.
Although I guess if you do only think in stereotype, you won't see any nuance of thought, ...hum

FloralBunting · 24/10/2020 15:34

Jaysus, is it possible that we are in a representative democracy and can contact members of the houses of parliament and the lords to represent our interests in the halls of power?

Nay! Twas there ever such a rum idea, guvnor!

yourhairiswinterfire · 24/10/2020 15:31

@jj1968

There are plenty of working class women fighting sexism and misogyny. Plenty of working class women fighting for adequate housing, healthcare and benefits. Plenty of working class women fighting the funding cuts for women's services. None of them feel the need to cosy up to the likes of Truss, Davies and Nicholson, because those people are happy to destroy working class women's lives at the drop of a hat.
Writing to the Minister for Women and Equalities and asking her to consider women isn't 'cosying up' to her.

Asking Baroness Nicholson to use her power to ensure sex education doesn't solely consist of boys being told where (and what) they can stick it in girls for their own gratification with no thought for the female isn't 'cosying up' to her.

MichelleofzeResistance · 24/10/2020 15:30

Oh and middle aged, middle class, non LGBT+, white...

no, no, no and no.

You're going to have to find some more stereotypes to try.

Butterer · 24/10/2020 15:28

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FloralBunting · 24/10/2020 15:28

Yes, it's often said on here how easy it is to raise money for campaigns and court cases, and that's because of all the extra bungs we get from the evil evangelicals in America, so we can flex our power muscles as the ruling elite feminists of the UK.

You can't move round my gaff without tripping over wedges of cash.

Datun · 24/10/2020 15:28

I honestly don't think I could count the number of male individuals who have come on here to tell us we should be doing something else.

We're doing it wrong, we're doing it with the wrong people, we're not doing it to benefit the right people, it's just wrong, wrong, wrong.

That's when you know how right you are.

Cocothefirst · 24/10/2020 15:27

We're also nasty Catholic types, apparently.

Back to the OP: the BBC was captured so long ago I don't know if they'll ever go back.

jj1968 · 24/10/2020 15:27

@midgebabe

The only person I get cost with is DH thank you very much

However, you see your problem of wanting to treat people according to a narrow set of stereotypes is again limiting you

You see, people who don't see everyone in stereotypes can say I agree with say Liz on this issue and disagree with her on that,

Try living outside of stereotypes, it's most liberating

You see, people who don't see everyone in stereotypes can say I agree with say Liz on this issue and disagree with her on that,

And people who are comfortable economically or in a professional career can say I'll vote for Liz for the same reason. And they will.

MichelleofzeResistance · 24/10/2020 15:27

I think it's desperately sad watching people who say they can't afford it donating to crowdfunders for vanity court cases

Those 'vanity court cases' being your dismissive reframing of women and girls rights and equality.

Nuff said really.

There is zero point you trying the whole 'care about disabled/people in poverty/BAME people etc' - the entire political lobby you are speaking for has absolutely no care or regard about females with any of those needs, as they have repeatedly said and demonstrated. Unless, as you are also demonstrating, those females in someway prove useful to make use of in the name of furthering the political agenda of said lobby.

Or trying to dissuade female people from protesting the removal of their rights, equality, language, following of law in the UK, fairness under law, non politicisation of the police -

it is absolutely disgusting that women are having to fund out of their own pockets for these things in 2020.

Butterer · 24/10/2020 15:26

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jj1968 · 24/10/2020 15:25

@Butterer

You seem to have a real grudge against women professionals, btw. And automatically assuming they mean wealth, a certain class and a certain political viewpoint.

There are enough right wing middle class men and professionals in the TRA movement too - do you criticise them?

Did you not read my comments about Glinner, Harry and Caspian?
Datun · 24/10/2020 15:25

@jj1968

There are plenty of working class women fighting sexism and misogyny. Plenty of working class women fighting for adequate housing, healthcare and benefits. Plenty of working class women fighting the funding cuts for women's services. None of them feel the need to cosy up to the likes of Truss, Davies and Nicholson, because those people are happy to destroy working class women's lives at the drop of a hat.
Oh noes.

Are women from the wrong social class campaigning for the wrong stuff now?

I forget which rule it is, but of course, feminism must be useful to men, otherwise it's worthless.

midgebabe · 24/10/2020 15:25

The only person I get cost with is DH thank you very much

However, you see your problem of wanting to treat people according to a narrow set of stereotypes is again limiting you

You see, people who don't see everyone in stereotypes can say I agree with say Liz on this issue and disagree with her on that,

Try living outside of stereotypes, it's most liberating

Blindingly0bvious · 24/10/2020 15:25

We have been called a lot of things on here. I only wish I was middle class. Chance would be a fine thing.

the lives of middle aged, middle class non-LGBT white people tend to stay pretty much the same

nope, nope, nope, yup... 1 out of four ain't bad

What's that you are saying? Don't give money to Glinner, he is a big meanie and doesn't like you anyway? "You'll never be invited to the top table" what is this, the playground? As is often said for lesser reasons, go to fuck.

jj1968 · 24/10/2020 15:24

@Butterer

What about my benefits money going to Ann Sinnotts appeal, *@jj1968* ? Would it be ok if I donated to Stonewall instead?
No fuck Stonewall. They're just the same thing on the other side. Join a claimant's groups instead.
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 24/10/2020 15:24

*HecatesCats
It's TRA bingo:
Aligned with the right

But also, mysteriously, managing to be "lefty". "middle class lefties" was the attempted insult.

Butterer · 24/10/2020 15:23

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persistentwoman · 24/10/2020 15:23

Like a ten year old:
Your mum's rubbish... Your house is a dump ... You're ugly / sad / old... nobody likes you... nobody will be your friend...

As the magnificent Maya Angelou told us: When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time

jj1968 · 24/10/2020 15:22

There are plenty of working class women fighting sexism and misogyny. Plenty of working class women fighting for adequate housing, healthcare and benefits. Plenty of working class women fighting the funding cuts for women's services. None of them feel the need to cosy up to the likes of Truss, Davies and Nicholson, because those people are happy to destroy working class women's lives at the drop of a hat.

Datun · 24/10/2020 15:22

I think it's desperately sad watching people who say they can't afford it donating to crowdfunders

I bet you do 🤣

midgebabe · 24/10/2020 15:21

So hang on, are you saying that to prevent bad people from getting elected we should shut up about the harm done to women and girls? Like, they only got elected because those nasty gc women would not shut up ?

Oh good, a like a bit of victim blaming.

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