BBC Bitsize - Pronouns

Non binary fir males seems to be an orange tu tu

Non binary fir females seems to mean breast binding and mastectomies.

Its equally as harmful as the rest of it. I dont understand how something only exists in order to define yourself against but not in anyone else's reality.

so, addressing people by their preferred pronouns - how does that work? I am struggling slightly to come up with an appropriate grammatical sentence. As my lovely grandma used to say, if someone you were referring to was in earshot 'who's she, the cats mother?' (not sure if anyone else has heard of that) but basically, if someone can hear you referring to them, you use their name and obviously if you are talking directly to them you use 'you' - how else could it be phrased to incorporate they or zie?

Secondly, what actually is non binary? I thought it was not feeling particularly male or female but the person I know, after a visit to the gender clinic and 'addressing their internalised transphobia', realised that they were not actually a lesbian but non-binary and 4 months later are on 'T' and waiting for the double mastectomy. Why, if you don't feel particularly male or female do you then alter your female body to present male?

Here's a list of current pronouns. I'm not sure if it's serious or not but the second image with the tweet directed to Titiana McGrath suggests thet it is genuine. It's hard to read with that black background but you get the gist, no need to read them all.
Jane Harris posted it on her FB.

mobile.twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/1309621415079968770

More evidence of the born in the wrong body narrative

jj wash your mouth out. You transphobe!!!

Stonewall's umbrella.... take a look, see what they say about who is trans!

The image pictures a mixed sex changing room and a mixed sex sports team and the person with she/her pronouns has pink socks on and the person with he/him has blue socks on. It's is propaganda for one side of an incredibly heated debate on both single sex facilities and single sex sports and assigning pink and blue is regressive nonsense. This is teeth grindingly poor form from the BBC, which claims to be impartial but just cannot bring itself to be impartial on women's rights because it's institutionally sexist.

I rather though that would be your response

Not sure why they would choose to publish something that’s wildly off message. It’s like an opinion piece on how great private jets are by Greta Thunberg in BPs quarterly newsletter.

But I digress. As Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania, nobody ever said that humans can be born in the wrong body.

Wait, Stonewall says trans is nothing to do with gender dysphoria now? It's about clothing preferences and hair length etc? God. I'm looking forward to my 25% pay rise, seeing as I'm clearly a bloke....

Crossdressers do not live in the female role, they dress occassionally, so it's not really comparable.

So using Stonewall's new definition of 'trans', a man who loves his penis but likes to wear "women's" clothes and use a female name, is just as 'trans' (or perhaps more so?) than a man who hates his male body and wishes he had a female body. We used to call these men crossdressers or transvestites, but now it seems they are just the same as 'transwomen'. Or maybe these are the only 'transwomen', and what used to be called 'transwomen' (men who hate their sexed bodies and take hormones and have surgery to change their bodies) are now called something else. 'Truscum', perhaps.

Have I got this right jj?

Previous Bitesize bollocks:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3697303-BBC-Bitesize-is-teaching-children-being-a-lesbian-is-about-gender?pg=1

Bitesize has form for this bollocks.

Going through my emails, I recall complaining about similar dodgy wording before, but it seems our complaints were successful:

'Bitesize have again consulted with the BBC Diversity and Inclusion team, and taken advice on the wording used in the Bitesize Learning for Life and Work content.

Please be assured some wording has since been edited.'

Time to hold them to account. AGAIN.

There's been a bit of a walking away from the born in the wrong body phrase recently.

Any way let's not forget that Nancy Kelly is on record in the guardian saying that they are changing tack and don't expect people to believe what they believe ...

Here you are

It's only since they adopted an anti women and girl misogynistic approach, promoting the "born in the wrong body" carp

Can you point to where they adopt this approach because I could only find one reference to it on their website which appears to say the opposite?

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. If you are preoccupying yourself with what other people think about you, to the extent that you feel they are persecuting you by referring to you when talking to third parties in ways you don’t like, you are setting yourself up for failure. All day, every day. If you feel that people not agreeing with your perception of yourself are being closed minded, you will find conflict wherever you go and whatever you do. You cannot find happiness this way.

It’s not about what it takes from me (other posters have articulated this very clearly). It’s about what it takes from you, enforcer of pronouns. If you’re waiting for everyone you meet to endorse your worldview, you will be disappointed. The best piece of advice I ever got was “try not to worry too much about what people think of you, it’s really none of your business”. Or as Elizabeth I said “I will not make windows into men’s souls”.

So no, BBC, I don’t think this is an easy, polite thing to do to make people feel better, because I don’t think it does that at all.

Some of Stonewall's resources (homophobic bullying etc) are very good. It's only since they adopted an anti women and girl misogynistic approach, promoting the "born in the wrong body" carp and telling untruths about puberty blocking drugs etc that it became apparent there were problems. You will find Stonewall recommended on all sorts of DfE publications. It will take a while for the inappropriate material to be identified and weeded out.
Transgender Trend is always a good place for people to start with their analysis of the inappropriate queer theory elements in SRE materials that have been written by adult lobby groups and aimed at children.
www.transgendertrend.com/wp-content/uploads/woocommerce_uploads/2020/06/Inclusive-Relationships-and-Sex-Education-in-Schools-RSE-2.09-0l5lp7.pdf

As seen from the other thread an autistic teenager now has a criminal record fir asking a pcso if they were a bit or a girl.

This is the cloud we are expecting children to live under.

Declan :( This is what turned me, and quite a few others I imagine.

Where was the kindness and understanding (that's demanded of us) for Declan, who was dragged to court, fined and publicly shamed as some kind of villain, his face posted all over the internet for ridicule, for behaving how some people with autism behave? Being blunt and to the point is a well known autistic characteristic, and that he was charged in an absolute disgrace. Good to know some discrimination is absolutely fine and dandy.

The pic, if it posts, is another copper saying using their preferred pronoun lets them know they're in a 'safe space'. A.POLICE.OFFICER. The people some rely on for help when their violent partners are beating them, the people sent out to detain people with all kinds of weapons, the people involved in dangerous high speed pursuits regularly, the people who would be expected to help during a terrorist attack. Police officers are also at risk of being beaten, shot, stabbed, ran over, attacked with acid, insulted daily, etc. But the wrong pronoun makes them unsafe?? For fucking real?

What an absolute mockery, and they wonder why people can't take it seriously.

There's a difference between signposting resources and the requirements of statutory obligations.

Bloody creepy, not so subliminal message of "girls, be kind and accept penis into your personal space if the penis owner chooses to announce themselves with the appropriate pronouns."

Good grief. I haven't looked at Bitesize for a few years.

Why do the characters in that image have pink trout pouts/kissy faces? I find that as weird, alarming as the pronouns shite!

I have deactivated my fb so I can't see any of the lovely comments by women wiping the floor with a DFE mop! Could someone do a screenshot??