Jk Rowling and trans issues... talk to me!

I'm only speaking for myself!
I assume others use 'trans' as a euphemism rather than literally. Or simply because telling the truth is enough to get you banned or censored.

How would you refer to 'reincarnated people' Quaagars, without feeling as if you were dishonestly implying you think they literally do have the soul of someone else inside a dispossessed body?

Trans ideology depends on a personal belief system as does reincarnation. These beliefs are not universal.

By saying no one is reincarnated though so that just makes them people, as reincarnated people don't exist, if you're saying this in relation to trans people, as in they exist as people but not as trans, as trans doesn't exist, how can you not see that you're denying them being trans?
That you'll accept them as people, but not as trans, as that doesn't exist going by your analogy?

If you want us to accept them as trans, can you define what you mean by 'trans'?

I can understand this existing thing.

The persona created by someone becomes false when the person is addressed and not the persona. The constructed identity only works until it's contradicted, all the work that's gone into building it becomes nothing as it's not working, it's "existence" is not the solid thing that it's creator wants it to be.

That's exactly what I am saying.

And yes, Barracker has it with that analogy. Perfect.

I think Julia Long simply doesn't believe "trans" is a particularly meaningful category. Hence the idea that she is denying their existence. She of course knows that this group of people exist, and as she writes about them frequently it's absurd to suggest she doesn't.

Or if they do, it is completely irrelevant since they don't have any recall about their previous incarnations.

I see it more as:
Some people believe they are reincarnated.
They are definitely people.
They definitely exist.
But they are not reincarnated people, even if they call themselves this.
Because
Noone is reincarnated.

Reincarnated people don't exist.

NRatched
My post was mainly about the way people jump from
Transwomen are not women
to
Transwomen don't exist.

Saying they are not women, is not saying they don't exist.

The equivalent would be asserting that if I say "cats are not dogs" I am saying that cats do not exist. Or so I see it.

But some seem to take even saying 'you cannot change your sex' as denial that transpeople exist. Its weird.

Transpeople do exist. But sex is immutable.

My post was mainly about the way people jump from
Transwomen are not women
to
Transwomen don't exist.

Saying they are not women, is not saying they don't exist.

I should learn though, not to say 'noone' in posts as whatever the opinion, at least one outlier can be found. Hell, some people genuinely believe the moon is a ball of cheese so..

Leafy wrote quite an important post. It's a shame it was deleted. I think it was due to the use of the word troll. I think if she reposted without that word and being careful not to generalise it would be ok.

If she actually said transwomen don't exist, then thats really weird given a lot of her campaigning

Or, was it actually more along the 'noone is born in the wrong body' line? As thats not quite the same thing.

Anyone can look around them and see transpeople. It would be like denying trees exist or something. Whether you agree with their reasoning, or anything like that is not the point, people who think they are trans clearly exist. So yeah, I find it weird if Long flat out denied this.

Correction: Jim Jones, not Jack Jones. I do apologise and hope I have not offended anyone by making a mistake and writing Jack instead of Jim.

As there isn't an index of words to refer to which will get you deleted and a strike, I thought I'd warn people of one word I was deleted and given a strike for. Possibly (just surmising) after some very kind person, very secure in the credibility of their convictions, reported it. I won't write it out as that is banned, so just to give a clue, so nobody offends anyone with that hateful word again.

Here's the puzzle; c*, *l, u, **t. I haven't written the word again, but it is obviously a pitfall, so I wouldn't want people to remain ignorant of that pitfall.

I thought it had a particular meaning as to the widespread acceptance of a belief, but now know that is needs to be scratched from the dictionary, because it is a verboten word. I now also know it is offensive to those of all religions, beliefs and ideologies. Which are all equally worthy and sacred.

So to Jack Jones and adherents (or all their surviving relatives), on foot of my re-education, I recognise that the religious or ideological practices at Jonestown, are due the exact same respect and value of all world ideologies and religions. I do apologise for using that word. Looking it up, I see that Jack Jones received humanitarian awards and plaudits while he was the charismatic leader of such a lauded religion, so others at the time saw his religious movement was certainly not that c word.

Some naughty people afterwards were obviously just haters, with their revisionism. And use of the c word. No not that one. That one is just fine as it hates exclusively on women. That is not banned.

A trans person is who they say they are.

If they say they are Joan Collins, Donald Duck or Spartacus, what then? Likewise if they are not physically female with XX chromosomes, they are not women, they are transwomen.

For me this starts with the fact that a woman is a human female and a man is a human male. Truth and language are essential

Previously, after punching his wife, he attempted to DARVO agencies by convincing them that the abuse was committed by his wife and was deceptive enough to be admitted to a woman's domestic violence refuge as part of a ploy to gain custody of their children.

FFS

A lot do make medical changes.

Really? What I've learned, mostly from MN, is that only a tiny minority do.