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House of Lords Gender Recognition Act GRA - video - 19 Oct 2020

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FindTheTruth · 19/10/2020 15:59

GRA questions have been raised in the HOL this afternoon covering the census, hospitals, schools, Equality Act, Cancel Culture and sport. Lasts 12 minutes.

Video: parliamentlive.tv/event/index/93301826-ed65-4d26-aaaa-a372600ccaf7?in=13:34:52&out=13:46:08

Participants:
13:45:27
Baroness Grender (Liberal Democrat)
13:44:48
Baroness Berridge (Conservative)
13:44:10
Baroness Wilcox (Conservative)
13:43:53
Baroness Berridge (Conservative)
13:43:25
Baroness Grey-Thompson (Crossbench)
13:43:04
Baroness Berridge (Conservative)
13:42:13
Lord Herbert of South Downs (Conservative)
13:41:45
Baroness Berridge (Conservative)
13:41:02
Baroness Barker (Liberal Democrat)
13:40:27
Baroness Berridge (Conservative)
13:39:30
Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne (Conservative)
13:38:58
Baroness Berridge (Conservative)
13:38:12
Lord Cashman (Non-affiliated)
13:37:24
Baroness Berridge (Conservative)
13:36:48
Lord Triesman (Labour)
13:36:20
Baroness Berridge (Conservative)

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Cascade220 · 19/10/2020 17:55

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RedDogsBeg · 19/10/2020 17:02

Shows exactly why we need recourse to the Courts and boy are they hung up on where the funding for Court cases comes from.

It really is insulting.

TheQuietWoman · 19/10/2020 16:48

It would be laughable if it wasn't so damn insulting. And I see Cashman has reared his head.

yourhairiswinterfire · 19/10/2020 16:43

@TheQuietWoman

Women who do not have male bodies.🥴
Transwomen are women, and actual women are merely non men. Nice to know.
TheQuietWoman · 19/10/2020 16:40

Women who do not have male bodies.🥴

Kaiserin · 19/10/2020 16:32

Good to hear

MichelleofzeResistance · 19/10/2020 16:28

single sex wards can be provided and there is specific NHS guidance that transgender people should be accommodated according to their presentation

Yes, that states two totally incompatible things existing together, we know this. So the solution?

but that the decisions should be in the best interests of patients

Which patients?

and we leave it to front line clinicians to make those decisions.

Total cop out.

Angry

The question was: will gov advise NHS on the specific rights of women who do not have male bodies to access single sex wards and medical facilities?

The answer basically is: No.

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FindTheTruth · 19/10/2020 16:22

Lord Triesman (Labour)
13:36:20

Q: Will Gov stick to the statutory definitions required to collect data for sex discrimination and will guide ACAS to do so. Since gender identification would not provide reliable data for statistical analysis purposes needed to understand historical patterns. What guidance will Gov give for clarity on data - legislation. Given comparable difficulty for gender relying on self id , will gov advise NHS on the specific rights of women who do not have male bodies to access single sex wards and medical facilities?

Baroness Berridge (Conservative)
13:36:48

A: NHS is a public body. under EQ single sex wards can be provided and there is specific NHS guidance that transgender people should be accommodated according to their presentation but that the decisions should be in the best interests of patients and we leave it to front line clinicians to make those decisions.

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FindTheTruth · 19/10/2020 16:07

Lord Hunt raised the GRA open question today

13:35 Lord Hunt - in the interaction between the EA and GRA, those most affected - women and transgender people - should have freedom to speak. Intimidation and no platforming are not acceptable. Will the Gov reiterate the importance of single sex spaces covered by the EA and make it clear to public bodies that it's not acceptable to insist on gender neutral services, at the expense of providing women only safe spaces in refuge and rape crisis centres.

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SirSamuelVimes · 19/10/2020 16:00

Placemarking to watch later. Thanks op.