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'Top Surgery'

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 19/10/2020 11:42

Just had a mastectomy last week after my implant burst. BC was 8 years ago, but I'm still here.

Anyway, totally pissed off at the lopsided-ness as remaining boob is an E-cup, but obviously they won't remove it as it's healthy Hmm

Somewhat flippantly I was thinking, maybe I should now identify as in the wrong body, as my ideal body will now be chestless ? And then I can be classed as suffering from body dysmorphia and I can get the nhs to sort me out, instead of having to save up for it myself?

Or is that totally tasteless?

Runs and ducks for cover

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Dmtush · 23/10/2020 15:21

@TeaAndStrumpets

Enraged on your behalf, babyshark Unfortunately, you have made the mistake of being born female.

BTW Earlier today I caught part of a discussion about average length of time for endometriosis to be diagnosed, and just wanted to scream.

I first went to the GP about my heavy painful periods at age 12, it’s only now 26 years later that I’m being treated and diagnosed.

OP I hope you get the reconstruction you want x

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 21/10/2020 21:22

@talkingdeadscot

Babysharkdoodoodood

DM sent

ThanksSmile
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Anele22 · 21/10/2020 20:50

Apologies if I'm repeating anything that's already been said - I had a unilateral mastectomy and I'm glad I kept the other breast because I do still get some pleasure from it. Sexually speaking. Seemed a shame to lose it if I didn't have to. That said, if you feel uncomfortable lop-sided - and I can sympathise with that too - then I'd understand you wanting to have it removed.

Delphinium20 · 21/10/2020 16:19

Sorry to hear of your muscle pains. My mother had breast reduction surgery to help her severe back pain and it really helped. I get it's a bit different for you...but I can't help see parallels that our breasts impact our skeletal frame, muscle/tendon network, nerves, etc. -a whole body approach is what you need from your doctor. Thinking of you.

talkingdeadscot · 21/10/2020 16:00

Babysharkdoodoodood

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 20/10/2020 16:55

I was feeling angry enough about BabyShark's plight, before I read that tweet from Toby Sinbad Walker complaining that transpeople's "long awaited top surgery had been cancelled to let more cancer mastectomies happen".

Prioritising cancer patients? How very dare they! Apparently it's very bad because "Transgender wait times are fatal".

I'm hoping that every display of sheer fact-free narcissism wakes up a few more people and eventually no one will collude with this nonsense any more.

Still really pissed off that women who actually need surgery can't get it. Babyshark, I hope Talkingdeadscot's experience can help you get the treatment you need.

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 20/10/2020 14:48

@talkingdeadscot

Babysharkdoodoodood If you really want some pointers for getting your second mastectomy I can help. I had mine done less than 3 years ago. It was a battle but I managed it in the end. Let me know Flowers
Yes please. I'm going to wait for this one to settle down, then go for it.

Thank you

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talkingdeadscot · 20/10/2020 13:10

Babysharkdoodoodood If you really want some pointers for getting your second mastectomy I can help. I had mine done less than 3 years ago. It was a battle but I managed it in the end. Let me know Flowers

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 20/10/2020 12:27

Thank you SabrinasCat.

So the women who are asking people to chip in for the operation have either been told that the NHS won't do it or perhaps the waiting list is very long so they choose go private?

But now I'm wondering, if the NHS refuse because they think it's not beneficial does that mean the private sector will just go ahead and perform the (unnecessary?) operation as long as the "patient" has the cash?

Really?

SabrinasCat · 20/10/2020 12:00

Nottinghamshire NHS says it is.

“Is surgery funded on the NHS?

Yes. Chest reconstructive surgery and genital reconstruction surgery (GRS or SRS) is necessary for many trans or non-binary people to live their lives; and for some denial of access to treatment can be life-threatening. However, for a nationalised healthcare system such as the NHS it is important that only people who would benefit from surgery are given it. This is one of the reasons, aside from the great number of ethical considerations, that we have a process of diagnosis and evaluation.“

www.nottinghamshirehealthcare.nhs.uk/gender-faqs

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 20/10/2020 11:51

...because this has implications for the Brighton food shop woman.

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 20/10/2020 11:50

@KnightsofColumbusThatHurt

What is the policy for trans men getting double mastectomies, ahem sorry, 'top surgery' on the NHS?

I often see crowd funding pages for 'help me get my top surgery' on Twitter etc so I thought you had to pay but I may be wrong.? Did Keira Bell get hers on the NHS?

Yes, I'd like to know too. Anyone?

Sexnotgender · 20/10/2020 11:35

I’m pretty sure that tweet was from ages ago?

risefromyourgrave · 20/10/2020 07:08

@Babysharkdoodoodood

I think it was funded by nhs until corona-time. Just had a re-tweet pop up on my timeline.
Those damn cancer ridden women, how dare they take precedent?! Hmm

Babyshark I can only imagine the discomfort you must feel. Flowers

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 19/10/2020 19:51

I think it was funded by nhs until corona-time. Just had a re-tweet pop up on my timeline.

'Top Surgery'
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KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 19/10/2020 19:25

I'm really sorry to hear about your surgery troubles by the way. I had a lumpectomy a couple of years ago to remove BC and I am always so thankful that I didn't need more extensive surgery, my left arm is still not quite right sometimes even all this time later. Sending Flowers

KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 19/10/2020 19:22

What is the policy for trans men getting double mastectomies, ahem sorry, 'top surgery' on the NHS?

I often see crowd funding pages for 'help me get my top surgery' on Twitter etc so I thought you had to pay but I may be wrong.? Did Keira Bell get hers on the NHS?

Sexnotgender · 19/10/2020 19:20

I’m sorry, it’s all just so shit.

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 19/10/2020 19:11

@Delphinium20

This makes me so angry for you. I'm also struck by the doctors who refused surgical removal of a healthy body part. I mean, I kinda agree with that premise in that another surgery has its health risks for you. But why oh why is that premise of removing healthy body parts not across the board?

But I would also think having one side heavier than the other would bring neck/back muscle issues. I wish you well.

So sorry OP.

Yup, my shoulders are already aching where I feel twisted: and it's not even been a week!

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Delphinium20 · 19/10/2020 18:22

This makes me so angry for you. I'm also struck by the doctors who refused surgical removal of a healthy body part. I mean, I kinda agree with that premise in that another surgery has its health risks for you. But why oh why is that premise of removing healthy body parts not across the board?

But I would also think having one side heavier than the other would bring neck/back muscle issues. I wish you well.

So sorry OP.

zanahoria · 19/10/2020 14:02

And the eumphemism 'top surgery' makes me sick

me too but makes me realise how cowardly the ideology is if they need these twee terms

EyeRollForever · 19/10/2020 13:50

@Babysharkdoodoodood I totally get it, and you shouldn't be in the position where you can only get equal and fair treatment via legal action. The priority has to be your health and well being. But gods, it absolutely boils my piss that you get fobbed off like this just because you are a woman!

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 19/10/2020 13:15

@Hathertonhariden

Have you seen the "knitted knockers" website?
I get a free prosthesis anyway. But I don't want any boobs full stop.

I guess I could use a binder (I'll give myself a Biscuitfor that thought)

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 19/10/2020 13:13

@EyeRollForever

As with so much on this board, awful but not surprising. I hope you are holding up ok.

Could you have a legal case for sex discrimination, here?

If a female has a GRC they are legally male and would thus be your comparator in law, right? So if that person is legally male and can have a double mastectomy of healthy breasts on the NHS, and you cannot because you are female, that's direct discrimination. They are treating female and "male" people differently. I'd like to see this tested in court tbh

I'd love to do this but am not super rich. Could do a go-fund me thing I suppose, but shy from the limelight. Plus my employer is too pro-tra for me to risk it.
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TeaAndStrumpets · 19/10/2020 12:35

Being born female and staying female of course, big mistake. It pushes you to the back of the queue.

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