Woman's Hour 20 October: Has Mumnset become too politicised?

So no, she didn't mishear.

It took me 30 seconds to find that out.

Incandescent?

Wearily, mildly amused, yes.

Incandescent?

Wearily, mildly amused and cynical about WH, yes.

This is such a funny thread.

everyone here is incandescent with rage.

That sort of hyperbolic attempted put-down is quite funny, imo.

I get what you're saying Escapeplanning but there is a lot of justified anger at Woman's Hour on MN. It should be a sort of radio equivalent of MN - a space where women can talk about issues that affect them, without having to tiptoe around on eggshells, apologising for centring female experience and interests, qualifying everything with whatabouthemen - but they have singularly failed to address, dissect and discuss the biggest political issue women have faced in forever.

And yet, as Evensupposing pinpointed upthread, while they are Too craven to have the conversation but want to host the meta-conversation?

Whichever way the discussion goes on tomorrow's programme, that in itself is pretty shit.

This is such a funny thread. Nauticant has clarified that she's possibly incorrectly paraphrased the trailer she heard with "too" political band the book on the subject of the politicisation of mumsnet WH is likely to be about is fantastically positive and informative but everyone here is incandescent with rage. About a Chinese Whisper. Hilarious. You will be so disappointed tomorrow when you hear something nice and you can't whinge.

Hold the front page. Large internet chat site whose content is user led discusses politics

This.

The highly tactless implication is somewhere around the 'Good grief women talk about political things and not just hairstyles, lipstick and lunchbox ideas, has anyone risk assessed this?' - which India Willoughby blurted out, not having realised women had brains and thoughts just like real humans do. And it's all said in the same tone of shocked horror as a teenager realising 'my mum has sex '

WH has becoming Men Sorting Out Women's hour.

Hold the front page. Large internet chat site whose content is user led discusses politics because that's one of the things the users want to talk about.

This should be a non-story.

The fact that it isn't speaks volumes about society's attitudes to mother's, and the extent to which WH panders to/ reflects those attitudes without critically examining.

When they say "politicised" will they cover the Brexit board, election coverage, rolling Trump threads, Westminster Ender's, upcoming US elections...

Or do you think it will all be "naughty mummies, daring to have an opinion on the intersection of women's rights with trans rights, how very dare they?"

I haven't heard the trailers etc.

Is anyone sending in pre-emptive emails?

I’m pretty sure mums shouldn’t be political at all. It sours the breast milk and makes the animals barren

Plus the inevitable frown lines it causes will make hubby sad

Sounds like a cracker. I may actually tune in for it. I really want to hear who is putting the case for the proposal

Jeesh - we've had ongoing Brexit, Trump, T May ousted, now Covid argy-bargy, BLM, Slavery, transgender women getting /not getting spaces, Dominic Cummings trip etc etc - naughty women, get back to discussing your knitting and fashion.

MN is not a hive mind.
The prevailing attitudes will simply reflect the people engaging on that topic.
When women get together, they talk. Sometimes (often) they say things that make men uncomfortable. That's when the names and the silencing/undermining begins.

What century did I get up in today?

A lot of fury on the thread about a paraphrasing of a trailer!

I don't think it's 'too politicised' but it isn't always very representative of all opinions on certain hot topics. I agree with the Mumsnet majority on some of these and not others, and it's certainly much harder to be the outlier arguing your case.

Women? Politics? God forbid! Next they'll be asking for the right to vote...

Is this perhaps because Woman’s Hour or BBC hierarchy didn’t like us discussing their coverage (Including beyond WH) or the recent changes of presenters of WH?

Yes, I know they are political. I never said otherwise.

I was lamenting the narrowing of discussion, not saying that what remains isn't political.

MN is definitely not what is was in terms of amount or breadth, and the depth is variable.

This is more positive from that Twitter link

@RobertGordonUni
about how #mumsnet has become a central part of a resurgent women's rights movement in the UK

Maybe there’s no ‘too’ and more about power of collective voice

WTA sexist F?
What online forum, discussing peaceful political views and actions, with a predominantly male user base would ever be described as being ‘too political’?

Whats wrong with mothers talking about politics? Being a mother is inherently political, much like most human activity..