Dr Jane Harris Twitter account is suspended

ripx4nutmeg · 2020-10-17T07:10:36+00:00

Seemingly permanently - essentially for saying that it's not hatred to say that biological sex is real and that focussing on 'gender assigned at birth' notions is not all that helpful during a pandemic. Jane's account is one of the most polite and thoughtful I've seen, and she has been instrumental in generating support from people who care about free speech for JK Rowling (she was one of the original signatories of the recent letter defending her, which was opened up to the public and now has more than 20,000 signatures). Social media censorship of gender critical accounts has reached new levels of extremism in the last few days. [[https://twitter.com/tibby17/status/1317344458158080000?s=19]]

Malahaha · 18/10/2020 14:39

I just followed you on Twitter, nutmeg. I've been a FB friend of Jane's for years.

wellbehavedwomen · 17/10/2020 19:32

The way women are treated for defending our rights compared to the revolting men who spew unspeakable abuse is nothing short of evil.

Yep. Men making rape and death threats are merrily posting away, while women simply arguing for the full humanity of our sex are silenced.

TheQuietWoman · 17/10/2020 19:30

I just saw this on Glinner's site. Jane and you Nutmeg are two of the best accounts on Twitter. I was banned last year thanks to that Arthur Chu person, but went back on for a while until I just had enough. The way women are treated for defending our rights compared to the revolting men who spew unspeakable abuse is nothing short of evil.

RandomGel · 17/10/2020 18:24

What can be done to challenge Twitter? Or Facebook? The cesspools that freely allows MAPs to operate freely and unchallenged, misogynists are also given free reign, the bullying and docking of women in the main, but of anyone challenging the prevailing ideology politics, is discreetly encouraged by Twitter HQ doing absolutely nothing.

Boycott them? Would that work? An investigation into both Twitter and Facebook by The Times or Speccie?
In time Twitter will eat itself but can we wait that long?

Apollo440 · 17/10/2020 18:06

Why would it end after the US election? The Republicans aren't doing it. It the woke left. I think it'll get worse when the Democrats win.

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ripx4nutmeg · 17/10/2020 16:49

I set up a new account on Facebook, which was fine. Then I started following gender critical pages - within seconds the account was suspended and they wanted to see ID before it would be reinstated (ironic that Facebook demands that its users respect self ID but it only accepts official ID). I sent my birth certificate and all I got was a message back saying 'you need to send ID and your account will remain locked until you do'.

There is no doubt that there is a social media censorship campaign going on at the moment. I hope it will end after the US election. I hope Jane Harris is reinstated then

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fatblackcatspaw · 17/10/2020 15:58

@ripx4nutmeg

My account is currently suspended, although everyone can see it. The suspension is due to end tomorrow. The tweet that got me suspended was tame under any definition (I said I don't think Marci Bowers has the best interests of their patients at heart if 80-90% of their phalloplasties result in 'complications') but this feels particularly sinister given the abuse aimed at women at the same time, including McKinnon retweeting images mocking Magdalen Berns for dying, which was posted at almost exactly the same time.

On top of that I initially was allowed to direct message people during the suspension, but that was removed after 36 hours. Facebook at the same time also censored me the moment I started following gender critical pages (Posie Parker has also had her account on Facebook locked until, I think, after the US election for no sane reason).

howard97a - I meant Twitter 'liberally censors people' with liberally's other definition of 'greatly'. A very clever pun which clearly didn't work ☺️

what? on facebook too? I'm afraid we do need legal cases to make some head way with these orgs

slipperywhensparticus · 17/10/2020 15:54

Twitter will soon become an irrelevant echo chamber the ability to tweet sainsbury's about piss poor produce is the only thing that will be allowed

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ripx4nutmeg · 17/10/2020 15:34

My account is currently suspended, although everyone can see it. The suspension is due to end tomorrow. The tweet that got me suspended was tame under any definition (I said I don't think Marci Bowers has the best interests of their patients at heart if 80-90% of their phalloplasties result in 'complications') but this feels particularly sinister given the abuse aimed at women at the same time, including McKinnon retweeting images mocking Magdalen Berns for dying, which was posted at almost exactly the same time.

On top of that I initially was allowed to direct message people during the suspension, but that was removed after 36 hours. Facebook at the same time also censored me the moment I started following gender critical pages (Posie Parker has also had her account on Facebook locked until, I think, after the US election for no sane reason).

howard97a - I meant Twitter 'liberally censors people' with liberally's other definition of 'greatly'. A very clever pun which clearly didn't work ☺️

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stella47 · 17/10/2020 15:33

I think nutmeg means liberal as "plentiful" as in "apply liberally" :)

howard97A · 17/10/2020 15:01

ripx4nutmeg the only thing liberal about the platform is its application of censorship to anyone who doesnt have a woke view

What’s ‘liberal’ about censorship? Have I misunderstood?

MouseandCat · 17/10/2020 13:56

yes I have been worried to see your account Ripx4 on restricted access. I hope you stay on twitter. You are a wonderful feminist news feed. I look at your account nearly every day. Thank you

Outwithreason · 17/10/2020 13:44

@ripx4nutmeg I just tried to look at your Twitter & was asked if I wanted to view it as it had unusual activity. I don't have an account. Is this normal?

FloralBunting · 17/10/2020 10:06

Underlining again that I greatly respect the women who stay to raise consciousness. I know you're all very aware that you could be the next target and the best to hope for is that their abusive behaviour brings sunlight.

We all make choices about which platforms we use strategically. Solidarity with other women, always.✊

Winesalot · 17/10/2020 10:05

She will be missed.

The blatant inequality between having women’s voices silenced vs the abuse of women is incredible. Hard to miss.

KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 17/10/2020 09:56

And yet all those tweets mocking Magdalen Bern's death are still there.

No misogyny here folks, no none at all!

FindTheTruth · 17/10/2020 09:55

It would be very unfortunate for Twitter if the banned women got together and launched legal action for indirect discrimination

^..... please, yes. do this.

HecatesCats · 17/10/2020 09:42

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

Indirect discrimination on the basis of sex under the Equality Act might be easier to show than direct discrimination. If Twitter’s moderation policy disadvantages women as they are being blocked while suck my lady dick abuse stands then that might be a breach. Especially as the PC for transgender is gender reassignment so nobody without a GRC can claim discrimination under the Act.

It would be very unfortunate for Twitter if the banned women got together and launched legal action for indirect discrimination, goodness knows there are enough of them now for it to be clear just how many have been banned.

AmandaHoldensLips · 17/10/2020 09:34

I got banned for a week for saying that child rapists should be castrated.

JKRowlingforever · 17/10/2020 09:29

You're probably right @flo "the quicker it descends into a pointless echo chamber of the perverts, creeps, dullards and influencer celebs that is only ever clicked on by accident, the better." But it's definitely been useful for me till raise public awareness about trans issues

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 17/10/2020 09:04

Indirect discrimination on the basis of sex under the Equality Act might be easier to show than direct discrimination. If Twitter’s moderation policy disadvantages women as they are being blocked while suck my lady dick abuse stands then that might be a breach. Especially as the PC for transgender is gender reassignment so nobody without a GRC can claim discrimination under the Act.

FindTheTruth · 17/10/2020 09:01

message from Jane

Dr Jane Harris Twitter account is suspended

Aesopfable · 17/10/2020 08:59

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

I wonder if Twitter are straying into indirect sex discrimination in the provision of their services. Women are getting banned for stating facts but men are not getting banned for abuse.

I think twitter stomped into direct discrimination of women some time ago.

FindTheTruth · 17/10/2020 08:53

Spot on Chaz, the examples are all there. People must be allowed defend the right to not believe in a religion.

KatVonlabonk · 17/10/2020 08:50

The danger with the whole way it works is a few loud voices are amplified. Pile ons seem like consensus. Niche groups are undermining fairness.

Women fighting back there have showed the powers that be, that two can play at that game. It shouldn't be like that. We shouldn't have to do it to defend our rights.

The debate should never have happened like that, there was no choice.

Social media has got ahead of society and is playing by its own rules.