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ForwomenScot have been granted permission for a Judicial Review of the Gender Representation on Public Boards Act 2018.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/10/2020 14:15

This is excellent news. For those of you unaware, the Scottish Government legislated that there had to be equal number of men and women on boards. Of course, they defined women as including men, so For Women Scotland applied for, and have been granted, a judicial review. Piece about it here www.scottishlegal.com/article/blog-shifting-sands-on-the-definition-of-woman-in-scots-law

Spades out!

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334bu · 17/10/2020 17:37

Not allowed to ask for any proof . They can be in s three piece suit with a beard and can't be challenged.

Cismyfatarsey · 17/10/2020 15:05

This is an extraordinary piece of work from FWS (who I support). They are taking a government to court. Please find spades and share widely.

BetsyM00 · 17/10/2020 13:33

The Mexican story was reported in the Guardian a while back:
www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/22/mexico-elections-fake-transgender-candidates-disqualified

And if a Scotsman was called Lee or Alex or Lesley, or any other unisex name, there would not even be a need to change details on a utility bill.

Wonder how it works in practice? If someone who clearly appears to be a man turns up for an interview for a position on the board, does the interviewer have to ask if he is actually a woman so they know which part of the quota to allocate him/her to.

334bu · 17/10/2020 13:20

I realise that these are men pretending to be trans to take positions specifically for transwomen but if they were willing to do this I am sure they would change their name on a utility bill to get a woman's place.

Sorry posted before I added aboveBlush

334bu · 17/10/2020 13:15

Interesting tweet on For Women Scotland twitter time line. It is often said that men wouldn't abuse the ability to self Id as a woman to take away rights or privileges. which have been given to women to make up for the discrimination they face in society, well here is just that in action

www.sopitas.com/noticias/muxe-transgenero-oaxaca-candidaturas/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
It's in Spanish but it should give you the option to see it in English.
In Scotland they wouldn't even need to change their clothes or shave their beards.

Calyx72 · 17/10/2020 12:10

Shared that excellent Stephen Daisley article on twitter (not my work twitter but my anonymous twitter unfortunately) and have donated to For Women Scotland as well as Glinner's funder.

Hope this keeps going and picks up speed

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Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 17/10/2020 11:38

Fantastic article by Stephen Daisley thank you for linking (& thank you to SD for linking too!)

dementedma · 17/10/2020 09:48

Good news. Will continue to support.

ArabellaScott · 17/10/2020 09:37

Excellent Spectator article.

This whole issue has revealed some very deep nastiness within the SNP.

Dances · 17/10/2020 09:09

OMG, the SNP are getting worse by the day.

FindTheTruth · 17/10/2020 08:48

Did Caroline McAllister not pass vetting because Teddy Hope SNP transgender officer, claimed in June to have been the target of abuse at a public meeting and online? did they provide proof?

NonnyMouse1337 · 17/10/2020 08:34

[quote 334bu]www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-snp-trans-rights-and-the-war-on-women[/quote]
Really good article.

Feminism has been at odds with conservatism for so long and yet it never occurred to the right to simply redefine women out of their rights. It took the left to come up with that.

Sad, but true.

334bu · 17/10/2020 08:24

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/73f629c4-0fec-11eb-94f0-d7c8706d29dd?shareToken=58614ea13304d7c244a4c418f7d7998d

Very worrying. Makes this judicial review seem even more important.

boatyardblues · 17/10/2020 08:04

That is an outstanding article by Stephen Daisley in the Spectator - wonderfully clear. 👍

Daughterofmabel · 17/10/2020 07:48

Donated and shared

Aesopfable · 17/10/2020 07:40

@BlackForestCake

Presumably if they got independence then all UK laws cease to apply. They would have to have some sort of law to adopt uk laws that currently apply until they can decide which ones to keep.

No, that's not how it works. Scotland already has a separate legal system and laws. What is currently Scottish law would continue to be so until changed.

No this is wrong. The majority of laws that are in place in Scotland are uK laws put in place by the UK Parliament - including for example the Equality Act 2010, the Coronavirus Act 2020 or the Education (Scotland) Act 1980. If Scotland became independent then the UK parliament laws (Including the Equality Act 2010) cease to apply in Scotland. This was the same with Europe - the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2020 meant all EU legislation continued to apply under domestic law unless amended or revoked. Something similar would have to be put in place in Scotland (which would also have to include EU law adopted by the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2020 which is UK legislation).
334bu · 17/10/2020 07:24

So all UK laws like the Equality law incorporated into Scots Law would remain?

BlackForestCake · 17/10/2020 00:59

Presumably if they got independence then all UK laws cease to apply. They would have to have some sort of law to adopt uk laws that currently apply until they can decide which ones to keep.

No, that's not how it works. Scotland already has a separate legal system and laws. What is currently Scottish law would continue to be so until changed.

MerchedCymru · 16/10/2020 23:43

Any friend of yours will be an asset Shedbuilder!

Shedbuilder · 16/10/2020 23:36

Great news, MerchedCymru. I have friends in Wales who'll be pleased to know about you.

littlbrowndog · 16/10/2020 22:08

Good work. Forewomen

SusanSmithFWS · 16/10/2020 21:37

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