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Joe Biden issues new statement on the transgender debate

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ripx4nutmeg · 16/10/2020 07:36

In a Q&A he said he'll reverse all 'anti trans' executive orders if he becomes president. He revealed again that he doesn't really know anything about the trans debate but implied he will still give campaigners everything they want twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1316913590620852224?s=20

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7Days · 16/10/2020 21:09

You can be against Biden without being a troll, LQ.

It's a valid political perspective.

BovaryX · 16/10/2020 21:08

@ListeningQuietly

Its fascinating that a couple of pro trump trolls who are not linked to any state try to anti Biden all the threads with cauldrons of word soup
You don't understand the meaning of the word 'troll.' Here's a clue. It doesn't mean anyone who disagrees with your politics. By the way? Are you planning to Newspeak the entire dictionary?
BlackWaveComing · 16/10/2020 21:06

Leftists who don't want to read Black conservatives might like to try reading Adolph Reed instead. He's not a conservative, but his perspective is a worthwhile addition to Kendi et al.

ListeningQuietly · 16/10/2020 21:05

Its fascinating that a couple of pro trump trolls
who are not linked to any state
try to anti Biden all the threads
with cauldrons of word soup

BovaryX · 16/10/2020 21:04

@Delphinium20

You don't seem to understand that not everyone shares your partisan, political views. You don't seem to understand that people still have to travel irrespective of Covid. You don't seem to understand that some people on Mumsnet are not in the UK. You don't seem to understand that irrespective of your claims, millions of Americans think that the six months of riots were not perpetrated by MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters. Au contraire. Some of the palest, most privileged 'activists' on the planet. You have a political opinion about these events. It is just that. An opinion. I find it difficult to understand how after the shock and awe of 2016, the political left is still boasting about its moral superiority and inability to understand different political viewpoints.

HelloToMyKitty · 16/10/2020 21:02

If you lived here, you'd know it wasn't the leftist burning our communities, you'd see that it was the white supremacists with their guns and MAGA hats and out of state license plates and their out of town (mostly southern) accents

Let me guess, they shouted ‘This is MAGA country!’ too 😂😂😂

I mean Southern accents? MAGA hats? Who are you fooling with this crap?

I am very much doubting you are American. A lot of what you are posting doesn’t pass the sniff test.

Southerners .... fuck me. Jussie you all right there?

HelloToMyKitty · 16/10/2020 20:57

Progressives (of which I am one) may not trust the CIA all the time, but does that mean that career civil servants are lying to the President about Russian interference with our elections and our government?

Career civil servants in Langley have caused immense harm to countries worldwide and indeed to the US, they are not to be trusted and often have their own agendas. Project Mockingbird comes to mind here.

Our FBI recently stopped a plot to kidnap the Governor of Michigan. Should she, a leftist, said, "nah, I don't believe you?"

She is probably aware that this plot was driven by the FBI as they did with Muslims after 9/11: www.cair.com/blog/fbi-entrapment-harms-vulnerable-muslims/

Hilary Clinton said the "basket of deplorables" in reference to the type of white supremacists who support Trump. Like Clinton, I find those people deplorable. They are the same type that plotted to kidnap a female governor this month. Sounds like Hilary was right

Whitmer plotters weren’t even Trump supporters. Try again.

The left has an issue with cancel culture, but we still have freedom of the press in the US and there is no liberal, progressive or moderate who thinks we should abolish our First Amendment Rights

You should read Emily Bazelon’s recent essay advocating to move to a more nuanced and ‘European’ understanding of the FA. Believe it was published in the NYT magazine. Frankly scared me.

There are 21 states in the US where a doctor may go to jail for performing abortions. 16 states if abortion is past the 20-22 week mark, 5 states if abortion is past the 24 week mark. Alabama is when the heartbeat is detected

Well, you generally cannot get an abortion in these states past ‘viability’ unless there is a fetal abnormality and this was the whole point of Roe v Wade. At the very least you’d lose your license to practice as these are illegal! Also, WaPo is paywalled but Alabama cannot have a heartbeat bill, it would (and has been) struck down by the Supreme Court.

7Days · 16/10/2020 20:56

But again with the Kenosha killings, that teen lived nearby, like the way we here in Ireland hop the border to get to the next town. He was being chased, he was on the ground when he shot the gun.
So that's not cut and dried either.

Delphinium20 · 16/10/2020 20:53

@BovaryX

And you making a visit to Houston does make you an expert on America

Er, I have lived in the US for years. Currently out of the country. But hey. Keep making assumptions that are false.

You raise me that point to argue you knew more about the narrative of riots in the US.
Delphinium20 · 16/10/2020 20:51

[quote BelleHathor]Didn't 2 of the "White Supremacists" who plotted to kidnap Governor Whitmer turn out to be anarchists/antifa/blm hence reason why the story disappeared quickly as it no longer suited the narrative.
amp.detroitnews.com/amp/5940296002
www.thedailybeast.com/feds-bust-militia-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-overthrow-government-affidavit-says
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONlMsZtzndQ[/quote]
The current charges allege they are a militia group called the Wolverine Watchman, a boogaloo group that belongs to the far right wing. Not leftists. No narrative change.

www.npr.org/2020/10/15/924155813/michigan-charges-8th-man-in-alleged-domestic-terrorism-plot-to-kidnap-gov-whitme

GwendolineMarysLaces · 16/10/2020 20:50

@pequini

Please no. He's running against the devil incarnate here. Can we not encourage people to not vote for the man. He's the only hope we have. I normally care a lot about women's rights and the aggressive trans lobby. But now is NOT moment. The left need to mobilise behind him not pick him apart.
This. WTAF?
BovaryX · 16/10/2020 20:49

Not sure why you'd travel on a plane to the US during a pandemic

Do you have any concept that sometimes people need to travel for business or personal reasons? Irrespective of the pandemic?

BovaryX · 16/10/2020 20:47

And you making a visit to Houston does make you an expert on America

Er, I have lived in the US for years. Currently out of the country. But hey. Keep making assumptions that are false.

Delphinium20 · 16/10/2020 20:45

[quote BovaryX]www.kenoshanews.com/news/local/damage-due-to-rioting-unrest-in-kenosha-tops-50-million-2-000-guard-assisted-here/article_26473ec9-c08a-5490-9d09-cc2b840b65f1.html[/quote]
You bring up Kenosha? It proves my point. A 17-year old Trump supporter came up to Kenosha and killed a man.

amp.kstp.com/articles/17-year-old-charged-in-kenosha-wisconsin-shootings-that-killed-2-5842071.html

And you making a visit to Houston does make you an expert on America. Not sure why you'd travel on a plane to the US during a pandemic. Our COVID cases are on the rise. Hope you don't get sick.

BelleHathor · 16/10/2020 20:43

Didn't 2 of the "White Supremacists" who plotted to kidnap Governor Whitmer turn out to be anarchists/antifa/blm hence reason why the story disappeared quickly as it no longer suited the narrative.
amp.detroitnews.com/amp/5940296002
www.thedailybeast.com/feds-bust-militia-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-overthrow-government-affidavit-says
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONlMsZtzndQ

BovaryX · 16/10/2020 20:42

@ListeningQuietly

Tim McVeigh? We are talking about 2020 But hey. Keep spinning that it's Republicans who have spent the last six months burning buildings and trashing businesses. Credible. Not.

ListeningQuietly · 16/10/2020 20:39

Bovary
Tell us about how it's Republicans burning buildings, chucking fireworks at cops and trashing businesses.
Tim McVeigh
Michigan militia
Gretchen Whitmer kidnap
Hmm

7Days · 16/10/2020 20:33

Thanks Delphinium, I'll have a look.
Add to the collection of confusion anyway.

Agree with that, LQ. My American based friends swirl around the centre, throw their hands up in horror at the extremists.

BovaryX · 16/10/2020 20:33

@Delphinium20

Tell us about how it's Republicans burning buildings, chucking fireworks at cops and trashing businesses. I was in Houston a couple of weeks ago. Do you imagine anyone believes you?

BovaryX · 16/10/2020 20:30

If you lived here, you'd know it wasn't the leftist burning our communities

@Delphinium20

That is a laughable lie. It's Southerners in MAGA hats trashing Portland? Do you imagine that anyone believes you? Sorry. Another narrative fail.