Joe Biden issues new statement on the transgender debate

Please no. He's running against the devil incarnate here. Can we not encourage people to not vote for the man. He's the only hope we have. I normally care a lot about women's rights and the aggressive trans lobby. But now is NOT moment. The left need to mobilise behind him not pick him apart.

That's for female prostitutes. I'd imagine for transwomen prostitutes the rate would be even higher.

What is you basis for this presumption? Though if it is true then it also means the risk of transwomen who are not prositutes being murdered is lower than the risk to women who are not prositutes.

Surely saying Trump is the better candidate is hyperbole? You wouldn't actually vote for him in reality would you

If I was American and I had to vote for one or the other then the answer would be yes.

I was about to start a business in the US before all this shit happened. If life had been different I would have been living there at least a few months of the year so I had read up on policies etc and I actually thought Trump would be better for the US than Biden.
Which is quite a frightening conclusion to come to.

I just got the impression that Biden was more about what he could do for other countries than what he could do for the US citizens.
Plus on trade, the UK would be stuffed under Biden. Trump at least seems to be open to some form of deal.

If anything if Trump didn’t open his mouth in public, came off Twitter and learned to calm down I think there would be a different result to this election.

I suspect that the number of people who would vote for Biden as Biden is rather low

I guess my point is that Biden won the primary over really excellent candidates like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang.

That’s on the Democratic voters in the primary. There were maybe a dozen other candidates to choose from.

And that’s who they chose. This is on them. Don’t forget they did once chose Obama over Hillary in 2008 so they don’t always get it wrong.

(You could say the same for the 2016 Repub primary but to me, the pool of candidates then were ... less than stellar)

If I had to pick one of those two to vote for I would (just) prefer Trump.

From elsewhere:

If this rapid pace continues through the year, 2020 will set a record for violence against the transgender community. At least 27 trans and gender-nonconforming folks were killed in all of 2019, according to the Human Rights Campaign.

If the total ends up double last year's that would be about 50.

The number of women killed per year in the US is about 2.5 per 100,000. (That's not an easy figure to track down.)

The US population is 330,000,000 of whom it's said 0.6% are trans so that would be about 2 million trans people in the US.

Therefore if 50 trans people were to be killed this year, the per 100,000 figure for trans people would be 2.5. That corresponds with the rate for women.

The problem for trans people in the US is that those killed are disproportionality in marginalised communites, for example people of colour or sex workers.

"Epidemiological studies based on United States data suggest that the likelihood of active female sex workers being victimized in a homicide is almost 18 times higher than that of women of similar age and race who do not engage in sex work." - Brewer, D. D. et al., “Extent, trends, and perpetrators of prostitution-related homicide in the United States”, Journal of Forensic Sciences, vol. 51, No. 5 (September 2006), pp. 1101–1108.

That's for female prostitutes. I'd imagine for transwomen prostitutes the rate would be even higher.

nevaljane

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously
It's amazing to me that in a country the size of America, the two 'best' candidates they could rustle up are Trump and Biden!
Why didn't the Democrats learn, after the Hillary Clinton fiasco, that they have to offer something better?

Agree and you can say exactly the same for UK, well I should say England. Johnson V Corbyn??? And Corbyn was there for 3 elections! At least we’ve got rid of him now.

And it’s overlooked that Biden was voted in fairly by the Democratic base. That’s who many wanted.

There are many people who would vote for Trump. On the other side there are many people who would vote for someone who isn't Trump. I suspect that the number of people who would vote for Biden as Biden is rather low.

The Democrat party had some excellent candidates at the early stage of their selection process

And it’s overlooked that Biden was voted in fairly by the Democratic base. That’s who many wanted.

I was personally holding out for Mayor Pete, Tulsi Gabbard or Andrew Yang

So goodbye abortion, Affordable Care Act, and hello Gilead

If Roe v Wade was struck down, abortion would not disappear. It would be legislated by States. So predictably Conservative states would limit it and nothing would change for Progressive states.

Or ... Congress could actually legislate a federal law (like they should have in the first place) instead of having relied on unelected judges to make and hold this decision for all these years.

As for the ACA, I would love to see it struck down ...

The Democrat party had some excellent candidates at the early stage of their selection process. I was particularly partial to Tulsi Gabbard myself, but cynically I think she has too much personal integrity to go far in politics. Even though she could have wiped the floor with most competitors, she might not reliably toe the party line. So Joe became candidate and I can't see how he'll win because 1. He's not an inspiring man, and 2. Last week he seemed to think he was running for the Senate.

Surely saying Trump is the better candidate is hyperbole? You wouldn't actually vote for him in reality would you?

I'm not remotely surprised that Biden can't speak openly on trans issues. I don't see any political heavyweight in any democratic country standing up for women's sex based rights. Rosie Duffield has been threatened with death for liking a tweet that said women have cervixes and her fellow mps daren't give her any public support.

This is where we are. Full rainbow capture. Same in Scotland. It's the issue I've engaged most with in my entire life but vote for Trump?? What is this insanity?

This is a politician who said that TRA is this generation's civil rights struggle. As if the actual civil rights movement were over and there weren't huge protests against police brutality and racism in the USA. Veterans of the civil rights movement back in the '60s have said as much, and disavowed TRAs, they weren't happy with the comparison at all.

50 women a day are murdered in the USA?

As the post by Gurufloof indicates, that's misleading because it would suggest a number of nearly 20,000 women murdered per year. The actual number is much lower than that, maybe several thousand. That's still a tragedy but it's good to have reliable numbers in mind.

And once again, the partisan nature of tech on prominent display....

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/republicans-accuse-big-tech-of-censoring-biden-leaks-q7r6szmpf

I am strongly convinced Trump will win again. The Republicans will have already captured the Supreme Court before the election. So goodbye abortion, Affordable Care Act, and hello Gilead. The Democrats have only themselves to blame.

I do fear for America when you look at what each candidate stands for and Trump looks like the better candidate

You look at Trump and you would think anyone who stood against him should win.... and then you look at Biden.

Why didn't the Democrats learn, after the Hillary Clinton fiasco

If you look at events on US campuses circa 2017, the answer is there with all the 'great untruths' Haidt discusses on explicit display. Dichotomous thinking. Common enemy tactics used to silence speakers. Speech is 'literal violence' but physical violence is permitted and encouraged. A contempt for freedom of speech, rational debate, respect for a diversity of views. The Democrats have not learned from the Hillary debacle. Witness the NYT sacking an editor for printing an op ed by Tom Cotton. They have doubled down on the 'basket of deplorables' stunt. Whatever the result in November, Americans deserve much better than this.

Why didn't the Democrats learn, after the Hillary Clinton fiasco, that they have to offer something better?

There were some excellent candidates in the primary. Whose fault is that registered Dems voted for Biden?

Trump is bad but Biden is no better. He's also a proven liar, has dodgy sexual history and has dementia.

I wonder if he’s “just” talking about the ban on Trans people in the military/ discrimination at work etc. I’m with him on that. I suppose we will have to wait and see.

It's amazing to me that in a country the size of America, the two 'best' candidates they could rustle up are Trump and Biden!
Why didn't the Democrats learn, after the Hillary Clinton fiasco, that they have to offer something better?