Joe Biden issues new statement on the transgender debate

The "not-males" thing was a gotcha. Either no one would pick up on it and you could feel smug at having got one over on the women of FWR or someone would pick it up and you could spring your "bigot trap".

And I'm just one woman here - I'll put up a picture of my c section scar if you want to be sure - not telling women to shut up, but asking women to have more than one stupid thought in their head that plays straight into the hands of the kinder kirche küche patriarchy currently taking over the States

Using not-male as a way to focus on the source of the discrimination as being the patriarchy, but you continue with your obsession with ensuring femaleness is pure and unsullied by association with other expressions of gender

And completely fail to engage with any of my examples of women-hurting discrimination currently going on

Well bloody done

Or ... Congress could actually legislate a federal law (like they should have in the first place) instead of having relied on unelected judges to make and hold this decision for all these years.

Kitty I've never really understood why this hasn't happened but then I'm not in the US. What's your take on it?

It was a dumb, low ball question with an obvious and meaningless answer. “Do you hate my trans daughter like Mr Trump?”

“No! Mr Trumps is bad and I am not so I will undo whatever he did!”

Would have liked to see what he said if women’s sport was brought up. But of course it never is.

Is the language being used to describe this person derogatory to not-males, whether that person is male or female?

What does this mean?

Calling women ‘not-males’ is derogatory.

What on earth is a not-male?

Is there a disadvantage in front of me because I'm not male?

Is the language being used to describe this event exclusionary to not-males?

Is the language being used to describe this person derogatory to not-males, whether that person is male or female?

Am I being expected to police the behaviour of males in order to keep myself safe?

In the States, do I have to drive more than 100 miles to access female-oriented healthcare, because Planned Parenthood has been driven out?

Do I have to declare heavy periods as a pre-existing condition which could affect my ability to get treatment for endemetriosis?

Does my employer have the right to refuse me birth control pills on my company-paid "healthcare' plan while signing off on Cialis with no problems?

Just a few examples which have nothing to do with trans or inter-sex, and which also don't involve 'butch' looking women being driven out of the loos in M&S.

I dont think anyone could reasonably argue that. Those high minded ideals would have been out the window if it was Trumps son. It's that type of unfairness and one sidedness that irks US voters, and increases support for Trump.Imo

Precisely. Tech is dominated by a narrow, insular political orthodoxy. It is not neutral and its media control makes legacy media barons look parochial. This is an issue about freedom of speech. But of course freedom of speech means nothing to those who want complete narrative control and whose tactics are to demonize anyone who won't obediently submit to increasingly totalitarian demands. It's the same old playlist. Accuse people of 'crimes of adjacency,' make unsubstantiated accusations and try to insinuate that you are a Nazi if you are not left wing. And they wonder why every election result leaves them in shock and awe....

I see your point Sedlescombe , but it looks very one sided. It would NOT have happened to a Trump scandal - I dont think anyone could reasonably argue that. Those high minded ideals would have been out the window if it was Trumps son.

It's that type of unfairness and one sidedness that irks US voters, and increases support for Trump.
Imo.

Well how do you fight for women's rights if you can't define what a woman is?
Can you answer the question?

This is why I avoid this board these days. It's dead to women's rights, dead to discussion of what the patriarchy as actually up to. Solely focused on a tiny proportion of society more likely to be victim than abuser. And every single fucking question about women's rights, about actual abuses of women's rights and abuse of women is met with well there's no point fighting for women's rights if we can't exactly define what a woman is. Someone on here actually said that to me once, and if any of you had any fucking sense or shame you would have flamed up at the sheer shittiness of that statement but no, you're all happy to sit here discussing ways to pretend that transwomen are all predators and transmen are all misguided victims and that intersex people are all very unfortunate but really not the point and ignore the actual violations of women's rights happening right under your noses.

Couldn't be more patriarchal if you tried.

The second rule is when you learn that the source of the story is Russia you verify the story before running it.

You certainly don't run rumours without an investigation which is what Giuliani was trying to provoke. Damage Biden before the election because who will care if it is untrue afterwards. The world has at least learned something from 2016

Responsible publishing from Twitter and Facebook

I'm sick and tired of the Trump Biden show. Democracy has reached the event horizon in a matter of years we'll be in the black hole.
The left has become obsessed with an unobtainable idea of perfect social justice, it's a darn sight easier than actually managing fairness between different factions and groups in the real world. It's infantile and I blame them for Trump.

why does the system produce such awful candidates?

Biden's answer to that mother was a mess, incoherent and rambling. Ugh. What a choice between the two.

In terms of the murder rate in the USA, the murder rates for 2019 have just been published.

According to statista.com, 2991 females were murdered in 2019 and of those the highest rate is for girl babies under 1, which is shocking.

Missed your last, DameFanny.

The question is, are the allegations true?
Not, I don't like who said it.
Is it true that massive tech giants are 'interfering' ? What gives them the right, how do they know?
Again, it's not about my team says this, therefore I believe.

Well these troll hunters are doing a great job of pushing me towards Trump - if only I had a vote

That's not quite true DameFanny.
Human rights for a tiny proportion of the population is a good thing, which everyone supports.
But lots not that simple is it, it is about truth and science, weakness in the face of aggression, telling convenient lies, disregarding the rights of one group when put up against the other group.

Calling everyone alt right or phone or whatever is a tactic that has a shelf life - I wish the Dems would see that and put their feet properly on the ground and aim to actually solve some problems.

When you look at Trump Vs Biden and think that human rights for a tiny proportion of the population is more worrying than the continuation of anti-woman and anti-science policies of Trump.

When you think that it's fine to be on the same side as Tommy Robinson.

When you think that a country overturning Roe Vs Wade will somehow magically allow abortion in federal legislation, because you don't want to admit that denying women healthcare is an acceptable cost of denying transwomen everything.

Voting is a chess move not a valentine. Maybe you should give Rebecca Solnit another go, instead of taking your feminism from fascist-leaning men?