Joe Biden issues new statement on the transgender debate

Arabella
Anybody who decides their whole voting strategy on one issue
(eg TRA / TWAW)
without taking into account
abortion rights
healthcare rights
employment rights
climate change
food safety
electoral / gerrymandering / democratic rights

is likely to make a poor decision

That's some assertion LQ.
NYP and Murdoch just literally made up a story out of thin air???
I dont buy that.
Inflate a story, nudge a story, blow it up out of proportion, yeah, they would do that alright. Might just be embarrassing pics and unpleasant but legal emails, when they are examined, fair enough.
Politics as usual, if so.

But the other question is, how were Twitter on to this plan so quickly? It was broken by a mainstream source - and immediately suppressed. It would not have happened with a Trump scandal, just no way.

Theres no two ways around it, that is no good for democracy.

Why do you keep putting 'single issue' in italics, Listening?

There are several crucial issues to consider - climate change and avoiding war, freedom of speech and media, women's rights.

I am interested in policy and actions, not media hot take opinion pieces on Trump's latest faux pas. They are just meaningless.

There is no laptop
there are no pictures
NYP (proprietor Rupert Murdoch) know that a good story is always better than a real story

There is no third party evidence at all.

The media print stories about Trump all the time without any third party evdience! They extensively print articles with unsubstantiated theories and stories which are then disproved about Trump. They do this all the time.

But suddenly with Biden, they enforce all these journalistic boundaries they totally ignore for Trump? Why?

The bias and inconsistency is glaring, and very dangerous.

Seriously people like me were totally on board with liberal agendas until a few years ago I started to realise I was being told what to think, what I was not allowed to think, and what I was not allowed to know about or ask questions about and that made me realise there is something much more dangerous than conservatism.

LQ are you saying the laptop is a dummy with fake photos and emails on it, or what?
Were the NYP made fools of, or were they in on it?
How did Twitter & FB divine the truth so quickly, and act to curb fake news so quickly?

Giluiliani is a partisan loon, and politics is a dirty business, different factions will have sat on different scandals in order to make hay when it suits them - that's not the point here, I dont think.

The new Hunter Biden / Laptop "story" comes from Rudy Giuliani.
There is no third party evidence at all.
QAnon are spreading stories about Biden.

But single issue voters who do not care about Climate Change seem happy with that.

Baby, I think I'm with you. I intensely dislike Trump for the boorish, shallow, vain misogynist he clearly is, but he at least doesn't seem to be so intent on controlling the media, the conversation, the populace.

Frightening times. As said above, there will be strife whoever wins.

Same goes for politics everywhere - it's such a hostile, toxic, immature infuriating nonsense game that it actually helps to be somewhat sociopathic to stay in it for the longterm. Which is why we so often get such terrible politicians.

[quote BovaryX]And once again, the partisan nature of tech on prominent display....

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/republicans-accuse-big-tech-of-censoring-biden-leaks-q7r6szmpf[/quote]
As I heard someone say they are just an extension of the Democrats and their not even trying to hide it. Though the desperation may turn out to be warranted as there is allegedly video of Hunter Biden engaging in indecent acts with a person who may not be of age.

PS. I am loving all the normal people coming to the realisation that Big Tech does ban/censor. The same people who said feminists were being "precious" and must have done something really bad to be banned (so deserved it) over the last few years.

I'd have voted for Hilary.
When Trump was elected I cried.

He is an odious individual who I felt shouldn't be able to represent a country I loved as much as the USA (I'm not American but I have close links.) I could not understand how the American people could have viewed his narcissistic, immoral personal behaviour and words as someone they would want to be their leader.

This time I'd vote for him.

What the democratic party has become frightens me more. Biden's stance on trans is not just frightening for women's rights, it's frightening for reality.

They have adopted a neo marxist view of identity politics and they are cynically using it for power.

No dissent is allowed or tolerated (as we see on this thread), you are condemn as evil for even asking questions or considering an alternative; there is a single ideology which must be adhered to and reality or facts will not be allowed to challenge this.
Words can change meaning, they will set the meaning, and you will comply.
This is what the trans ideology represents, women's rights are just a necessary casualty of this.

Their use of the BLM and the 1619 project are being used in the same way.

Trump is a nasty self absorbed clown of an individual, but the politics he's implemented are pretty much run of the mill liberterian repulicanism, which, it shocks me to say, is a whole lot less scary than the other at present.

I find it weird that I'm even saying it BovaryX.
He makes my skin crawl in a visceral way.

But if those are the facts I have to give credit - grudgingly - where it's due.

"What would Popper think of those who shut down speakers"

Exactly what he proposed in the paradox - where those speakers are denying you the right to exist

As to violence against heretics - well, punching a Nazi I can get behind. Orwellian redefinitions is a characterisation many people make and so when Orwell gets trotted out I assume it's empty rhetoric. Though he would have punched Nazis too.

For them, Trump’s hesitance to start wars is not a plus. I think I only read positive Trump coverage from the MSM when he was bombing Syria after a purported chemical weapons attack.

Actually a fearfully naice floral frock probably would do a better job than Trump.

I would (reluctantly) vote Boden

Sorry CaraDuneRedux but this is glorious. One of the times when I welcome an inability to amend posts.

It is true he hasn't pushed forward any foreign wars. Good news to those in the ME I'd say.
Didnt bomb Iran over Soleimi.
Helped broker Isreali peace talks.
Things settled down in NK - from a foreign policy pov not for the people themselves, of course.

Ok so standards were low coming in, but certain elements of the media did lead us to expect we'd all be dead in a fireball by now.

He is an absolute prick who acts the knob on Twitter. Awful as a human being.
Has undermined global cooperative bodies.
Has done nothing on climate change - but he is not alone there.
But from a global perspective he is less bad than we expected.

Fanny
You have never read The Open Society and its Enemies and neither do you understand Popper's writing about the paradox of tolerance. What would Popper think of those who shut down speakers, promote #no debate, expect submission to the Orwellian redefinition of words and justify physical violence against heretics? What would Popper say about the metaphysical claims which can't be falsified? The recurrent feature of aggressive lobbyists? What would Popper say about the Year Zero zealots who believe they are on the 'right side of history?' Popper knew all about totalitarians and their fanatical intolerance of Enlightenment values. I suggest you educate yourself.

Sadly, we need to get rid of the Orange Menace as a priority and safeguarding natal women will be a slow build.

Boden? Fucking autocorrect. Biden.

The finger wagging isn't working.

Nor are the reading comprehension skills

I said on the previous page if I were American I would (reluctantly) vote Boden, because of women's reproductive rights, and foreign policy.

But apparently I am invisible because I don't fit with the "GC feminists are the antichrist" narrative.

simply mind boggling

I tell you what's 'mind boggling.' The arrogance and insularity of those who think there is only one acceptable political viewpoint on a range of issues. The arrogance of those who think they can lecture women on this board about what ideas and discussions are 'allowed' and the growing list of topics which are deemed 'problematic.' I tell you what is tedious. The 'crimes of adjacency' charge because you can't handle being challenged on the arrogant assumptions you make about politics. Everyone who votes Democrat is not a paragon of virtue. Everyone who votes Republican is not a monster. You are not on Mount Moral Highground. The finger wagging isn't working.