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*TW* Pedophile found guilty of raping 5 year old given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE

237 replies

SebastianTheCrab · 15/10/2020 16:57

How? How??

If anyone knows how I can donate to the mum's bid to challenge his sentence in the High Court please tell me.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8843789/Mother-devastated-paedophile-walked-free-court-raping-five-year-old-daughter.html

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RedDiamond · 15/10/2020 19:24

I wanted to post this, not because I agree with what has happened, and I most certainly don't and I have posted this on Facebook to ask my friends and family to write to the Attorney General.

BUT what if this 21 year old has no idea he has done wrong? Does he have a mental deficiency? Does anyone know? How can he NOT be convicted of Rape if he knew what he was doing was wrong? I think there must be some mental/neurological disorder for the Judge not to convict him.

Meruem · 15/10/2020 19:23

I work in the CJS and am increasingly seeing community service being dished out for worse and worse offences. I am in despair at it all tbh. I used to feel I was doing some good in the world, now I just feel ashamed. That poor family, I really have no words.

SebastianTheCrab · 15/10/2020 19:23

Sorry I did indeed mean Trigger Warning. And I'll ask if it can be moved to chat.

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Unsure33 · 15/10/2020 19:22

It’s disgusting. Rape of anyone of any age used to have a determined minimum sentence . Surely the rape of a defenceless young child is the reason for an even stronger sentence .

I will be writing as well .

JuiceBogTrotter · 15/10/2020 19:21

I'm confused.
If he has reduced culpability for whatever reason, surely he should be detained somewhere secure for the safety of other children?

FairFriday · 15/10/2020 19:21

That explains why in the photo he is holding a toy.

Iwonder777 · 15/10/2020 19:20

What the actual fuck. Surely not.

CaraDuneRedux · 15/10/2020 19:20

@equuscaballus

I have commuted on the train in the same carriage with this man several times. Mentally he does not have full capacity.

He takes his toys with him to play on the train and talks to himself.

Not sure why this isn't in the media.

That's interesting.

I've googled and as far as I can see, three news outlets are covering this - Mail, Mirror and local paper. The wording appears to be almost identical in all of them, so I assume they're all getting their copy off the same syndicated news feed.

Aridane · 15/10/2020 19:20

@Cattenberg - mental capacity to stand trial, yes; and mental capacity that he had the intention to commit the rape. But enough of a mental disorder to count as a powerful and exceptional mitigation factor

Justasecondnow · 15/10/2020 19:18

FairFriday we don’t know the date of the offence. We know she was 5 at the time and he is 21 now. Could have been 10 years ago, could be last year. We don’t know enough really. Still worth writing in, as suggested above, in case there isn’t any exceptional back story and the Judge has, to put it mildly, lost the plot.

PancakesAndSyrup · 15/10/2020 19:18

That's absolutely disgraceful. I can't even begin to imagine how the family must feel. What a monster

Cattenberg · 15/10/2020 19:18

I’m puzzled, because presumably he had the mental capacity to stand trial?

Fairineouf · 15/10/2020 19:18

@Kantastic

Am slightly baffled by the TW in the OP's title though - can't see relevant reference in the DM article, have they edited it out

TW means "trigger warning" in this case!

Thanks for the clarification Kantastic and everyone else.
Aridane · 15/10/2020 19:18

You would think so, wouldn't you? Raping a child - though if he was placed in custody, what's the odds it would be a woman's prison?

Unlikely since he is a man and not a TW

equuscaballus · 15/10/2020 19:17

I have commuted on the train in the same carriage with this man several times. Mentally he does not have full capacity.

He takes his toys with him to play on the train and talks to himself.

Not sure why this isn't in the media.

Aridane · 15/10/2020 19:16

This is very odd from a legal perspective in light of the sentencing guidelines for rape of a child under 13 - consult.justice.gov.uk/sentencing-council/victim-is-a-child/supporting_documents/Guidelines_Offences%20where%20the%20victim%20is%20child.pdf

My sense of this is mitigation associated with mental disorder / learning difficulty - though speculation on my part. Mitigation factors for sentencing attached

*TW* Pedophile found guilty of raping 5 year old given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE
Billben · 15/10/2020 19:16

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TooManyDogsandChildren · 15/10/2020 19:15

Email sent. So its fine to rape small children now then?

FairFriday · 15/10/2020 19:14

Isn’t he 21 now? How long ago was this?

FreshFreesias · 15/10/2020 19:14

It’s like Eric Joyce all over again.
The establishment seeks to normalise paedophilia.

lesleyw1953 · 15/10/2020 19:13

We have emailed a protest

GabsAlot · 15/10/2020 19:12

and people wonder why there are vigilantes

this is disgusting

Justasecondnow · 15/10/2020 19:12

Feministschool he isn’t underage now but these things take a while to get to court. Maybe he was at time of offence. I don’t know.

FairFriday · 15/10/2020 19:12

There was a case in Scotland (again a young man) and he was given a slap on the write because... he was going to study to be a vet and a custodial sentence would be Very Sad for him (or some such nonsense).

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/10/2020 19:11

Well the judge is clearly a Paedo lover. Mind you lets not forget they need to keep all the spaces they can to house the poor old soul we can't pay their council tax.
Angry doesn't even begin to cover what I'm feeling right now.
30 years and castration without anaesthetic that's what I'd have gave him. To be honest some may say "Hed be safer in prison. His picture is out there now. I'm not condoning or promoting vigilante attacks but it does go on and nor would I lose any sleep either.
Love to this precious baby and her family. Surely there must be a,petition to sign.