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what's happening in Rosie Duffield's office?

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CarolJenkyns · 14/10/2020 16:30

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/10/14/rosie-duffield-mp-labour-transphobia-row-staffer-quits-resignation-canterbury/

Not sure what to make of this to be honest.

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KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 14/10/2020 22:05

I can't take Prick News seriously since the 'Mumsnetters call for Drag Queen's crucifixion' article! 😂 I'm embarrassed for them.

Rose Duffield believes that people with cervixes should be referred to as women. It's hardly fucking controversy of the century.

Twitter is absolutely toxic and I think she is very brave to lay herself open in this way, she didn't have to to do this.

nauticant · 14/10/2020 21:52

Helen Lewis was accused of lying by Pink News over something she said on Radio 4 this morning and she is currently wiping the floor with them on twitter:

twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1316454452191264770

They are a very unpleasant propaganda rag.

Butterer · 14/10/2020 21:48

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RandomGel · 14/10/2020 21:46

Rosie rubbished the PN story earlier this evening.
She has also promised to tackle PN. Whether or not Rosie does tackle them, one day it will be one lie too many and they will be brought to account.
We have seen the demise of old and established news papers that were destroyed by the lies they spun.

what's happening in Rosie Duffield's office?
CaraDuneRedux · 14/10/2020 21:26

@InflamatoryWrit

I admit I am a suspicious character by nature, but I smell faux query here. If OP is trying to undermine RD's character by linking a Prick News article, and to be fair they will say ANYTHING, well I'm not biting.
You think? Wink

In other news, windows are transparent.

PearPickingPorky · 14/10/2020 21:22

A lesbian who's upset that a woman said only women have a cervix.

Snort.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 14/10/2020 21:07

It’s interesting that you think lesbians that are trans allies must have been brainwashed

I'd suggest that someone who simultaneously knows themselves to be same sex attracted and is happy to pretend sex isn't real certainly isn't thinking things through

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 14/10/2020 20:55

Also, not everyone is as heroic as Rosie. Her staff must have been frightened of getting the same abuse.

Lumene · 14/10/2020 20:55

As we know all lesbians feel exactly the same way about all things which is why it's so difficult to get tickets to a KD Lang gig

🤣

InflamatoryWrit · 14/10/2020 20:46

Moon "It’s interesting that you think lesbians that are trans allies must have been brainwashed."

No, what's interesting is that you think lesbians who don't believe only women have cervixes aren't brainwashed

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 14/10/2020 20:43

I think what i'm struggling with is that Rosie has said the criticism she's been getting for her beliefs is misogynistic, but then both people who quit her team are women

That’s the sad truth. So many women feel they have to be kind to men, even at women’s expense.

Moonbasealpha · 14/10/2020 20:35

@Shedbuilder

I am aware of a Labour MP who is GC but who has at least one member of staff who isn't, and who conducts all their GC conversations (and exchanges of information) in secret WA groups.

Lots of lesbians, particularly the younger ones, are trans allies. Not all lesbians are feminists and loads of them have been brainwashed by Pride and Stonewall into thinking that they're being kind. It's a tragedy.

It’s interesting that you think lesbians that are trans allies must have been brainwashed.
thinkingaboutLangCleg · 14/10/2020 20:35

Sounds like the trash is taking itself out

Grin
InflamatoryWrit · 14/10/2020 20:20

if you are here Rosie, well done for standing up to the bullying

I second that

Caroncanta · 14/10/2020 20:12

Sounds like the trash is taking itself out TBH

Yep.

wellbehavedwomen · 14/10/2020 20:11

@CarolJenkyns

i think what i'm struggling with is that Rosie has said the criticism she's been getting for her beliefs is misogynistic, but then both people who quit her team are women
Welcome to Mumsnet, OP.

That paper is deemed wholly unreliable by Wikipedia, of all places. So I'd not place your faith in their claims of anonymous feminists, rushing to deny sex is a lived reality, and condemning a woman - a survivor of male patterned violence - for pointing out that women have a stake in our own definition and our own rights.

Any woman who has a problem with that is no feminist. And we have no evidence whatsoever that these women even exist. It's not as if any other more reputable paper has talked to them, as far as I'm aware.

AnyOldPrion · 14/10/2020 20:09

The lesbian community is split. There are those, like Mhairi Black who are full on TRA and others who are GC. The latter have been cast out of the community. That’s one of the reasons the LGB Alliance has been set up, alongside grassroots women’s groups. It takes a brave woman to step away from the traditional LGBT group.

And.... that rag hasn’t said much that’s truthful in years. The only reason they still exist is because they were given a handout to campaign against women. I didn’t click on their misogynistic hate speech and I’m not going to.

MerchedCymru · 14/10/2020 20:08

Don't know if Rosie ever lurks on MN among the cervix-havers, but if you are here Rosie, well done for standing up to the bullying. Hope other MPs follow your lead.

InflamatoryWrit · 14/10/2020 19:39

I admit I am a suspicious character by nature, but I smell faux query here. If OP is trying to undermine RD's character by linking a Prick News article, and to be fair they will say ANYTHING, well I'm not biting.

FWRLurker · 14/10/2020 17:45

Idk kind of demonstrates neatly now classist this movement is I think.

Women who understand sex is real are being fired, or staying quiet because they can’t afford to be fired because they need to feed their families.

TWAW People At no risk of firing actively quit their jobs Because their boss said something they didn’t like outside of work, Seemingly they don’t really a Need a job if thats all it takes.

EvenSupposing · 14/10/2020 17:35

but one of the woman that quit was a lesbian. feels off to me that Rosie is saying she's only being criticised by woke men when there's a lesbian who was unhappy enough to leave

Feels off to you? Sure it does.

As we know all lesbians feel exactly the same way about all things which is why it's so difficult to get tickets to a KD Lang gig Hmm

persistentwoman · 14/10/2020 17:30

The Labour party is a very frightening place for women who believe in sex based rights and safeguarding children from dodgy groups. I have no doubt that her employees are challenged and threatened viciously as there is no one in charge insisting on any level of civility or safety for women (looking at one Keir Starmer here) - or in fact any one wanting democratic discussion about identity politics

Shedbuilder · 14/10/2020 17:07

I am aware of a Labour MP who is GC but who has at least one member of staff who isn't, and who conducts all their GC conversations (and exchanges of information) in secret WA groups.

Lots of lesbians, particularly the younger ones, are trans allies. Not all lesbians are feminists and loads of them have been brainwashed by Pride and Stonewall into thinking that they're being kind. It's a tragedy.

PurpleHoodie · 14/10/2020 17:05

Lumene

Also Pink News is the Daily Star of the gay press and doesn’t even sign up to IPSO so I would take anything with that as a source with a serious pinch of salt

This.

Butterer · 14/10/2020 16:59

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