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Women targeted in stabbings in Belfast

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ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles · 13/10/2020 13:14

Three women stabbed and two more punched in the neck/head. Motive isn't clear yet but I'm guessing it's no coincidence that the victims are all women.

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DeliciouslyFemale · 14/10/2020 11:15

@kattyboomboom

I don't really want an argument though tbh, just saying that men have it much worse in the violence arena and it's silly to pretend otherwise.
Yes they do, because men are the ones who commit the vast majority of violence towards men. We’re not talking about something that happened in England, we’re talking about NI. When was the last time you read anything relating to NI?
caughtalightsneeze · 14/10/2020 08:44

The Belfast Telegraph Facebook page that should say.

caughtalightsneeze · 14/10/2020 08:44

The comments section on the Belfast Telegraph page is depressing. Shocking number of laughing emojis. Laughing at the the idea of a man targeting women, laughing at the idea that women are effectively put under a curfew when these things happen, laughing at the idea that women get blamed when they are victims of violence.

FindTheTruth · 14/10/2020 05:57

A few more details here but not much.
www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/five-women-assaulted-in-belfast-three-stabbed-and-two-punched-in-separate-attacks-as-police-hunt-male-suspect-riding-bike-39617563.html

SDLP MP Claire Hanna
Horrific attack, apparently targeting 3 separate women over course of 2 hours. No one should have to feel anxious on our local streets. I recently co-sponsored @stellacreasy Westminster proposal to make misogyny a hate crime category & this underlines that need.
twitter.com/ClaireHanna/status/1315903805817487361

kattyboomboom · 14/10/2020 03:40

This isn't a dispute about territory, it's pretty obvious it's about someone wanting to hurt women and frighten other women.

Maybe, but it could also be a mentally ill person.

caughtalightsneeze · 14/10/2020 02:58

@kattyboomboom

Were they targeted solely because they were men?

Well, I've not had a chance to speak to the killer yet as police haven't caught him, but most stabbings are aimed at males because usually they're about asserting dominance over a geographical area. If a group of lads stray into the wrong postcode they can very easily end up a statistic.

But that's entirely different to being attacked solely because of their sex.

I'm not arguing that men aren't victims of violence. They are. But men aren't generally attacked whilst minding their own business just because someone is angry for some reason because men are out and about in public.

I know the areas well that these attacks happened in. I've walked them many times myself and used to live on one of the roads. This isn't a dispute about territory, it's pretty obvious it's about someone wanting to hurt women and frighten other women.

kattyboomboom · 14/10/2020 02:47

I don't really want an argument though tbh, just saying that men have it much worse in the violence arena and it's silly to pretend otherwise.

kattyboomboom · 14/10/2020 02:46

Were they targeted solely because they were men?

Well, I've not had a chance to speak to the killer yet as police haven't caught him, but most stabbings are aimed at males because usually they're about asserting dominance over a geographical area. If a group of lads stray into the wrong postcode they can very easily end up a statistic.

powershowerforanhour · 14/10/2020 02:12

Thank goodness for the small mercy of gun laws.

caughtalightsneeze · 14/10/2020 01:54

@kattyboomboom

Some of them undoubtedly were. Two men were shot and killed last week just down the road from me in Brierley Hill, presumably with same gun as found in a car together. I'm not sure it even made national news.
Were they targeted solely because they were men?
kattyboomboom · 14/10/2020 01:41

I've just googled that murder as this thread reminded me and seems the names have been released. Both lads lived just over a mile from where I do! (the bodies were found a bit further away).

kattyboomboom · 14/10/2020 01:32

Some of them undoubtedly were. Two men were shot and killed last week just down the road from me in Brierley Hill, presumably with same gun as found in a car together. I'm not sure it even made national news.

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kattyboomboom · 14/10/2020 01:24

The police are currently at a house where some incident with an axe has taken place. It has been suggested that this is linked to the attacks on females.

Oh, that's horrible. I wonder if it's a nutter or a terror attack (or maybe neither).

DeliciouslyFemale · 14/10/2020 01:19

The police are currently at a house where some incident with an axe has taken place. It has been suggested that this is linked to the attacks on females.

kattyboomboom · 14/10/2020 01:10

Disgusting and you can bet your bottom dollar they would have caught him straight away if he was attacking men.

You think?

Men get fatally stabbed almost weekly and it barely hits the news. The other month there were like three deaths in one night.

caughtalightsneeze · 13/10/2020 22:41

I saw an interview on the news earlier that really pissed me off.i can't remember if it was a police representative or a political representative but they said 'and these women were targeted when they were with friends and colleagues, so it's not as if they were alone'. It just pissed me off so much that the undertone of it was that if they had been alone it would somehow have been more understandable.

DandyMandy · 13/10/2020 20:50

Disgusting and you can bet your bottom dollar they would have caught him straight away if he was attacking men. Belfast is a joke and yes I can say that because I know the place very well. Look at how the troubles became all about men being killed even though plenty of women also were murdered. Same way with the Catholic church. Plenty of girls and women were abused, but it became all about boys. DV and rape have been on this rise there for years, but nothing is done about it. Abortion only became legal there in 2020. Says everything you need to know.

Collidascope · 13/10/2020 17:54

It will have been a pure coincidence OR a bad mummy or ex girlfriend’s fault, that he did it.

I can already see the headlines.

Knifeman had been dumped by girlfriend week before he went on rampage

The angel-faced boy who never got over his mother walking out

SirVixofVixHall · 13/10/2020 17:46

Terrorism. If this was another specific group then it would be labelled as such.

DeliciouslyFemale · 13/10/2020 15:54

@Collidascope

It's horrific but I'm so glad the injuries aren't thought to be life-threatening. The trauma though. How is this not a hate crime? Or terrorism?
Because it’s only women. Women are disposable or probably asked for it, by looking at him wrongly or answering back. But it definitely definitely wasn’t male violence against women. It will have been a pure coincidence OR a bad mummy or ex girlfriend’s fault, that he did it.
DeliciouslyFemale · 13/10/2020 15:52

[quote Annasgirl]@DeliciouslyFemale, I made a similar remark on here last year in relation to some item that happened in Belfast and was shot down for my hate speech!!![/quote]
It’s all about keeping it hidden in case we’re not seen as progressive. Yet, even here, female spaces are now becoming unisex, at the expense of females. Scratch the surface of any ‘progressive’ movements and you’ll find the same old sexism. Even the change to abortion laws is just crumbs thrown to women. It’s up until 12 weeks, which means many women will end up hitting the limit, before they know they’re pregnant. Religion controls most laws here.

Collidascope · 13/10/2020 14:12

It's horrific but I'm so glad the injuries aren't thought to be life-threatening. The trauma though. How is this not a hate crime? Or terrorism?

Annasgirl · 13/10/2020 14:02

@DeliciouslyFemale, I made a similar remark on here last year in relation to some item that happened in Belfast and was shot down for my hate speech!!!

DeliciouslyFemale · 13/10/2020 14:01

I’m sure it’s shear coincidence that they’re all women and absolutely not a misogynistic act of sex based violence. Poor souls. Northern Ireland is still a misogynistic shit hole, when it comes to how women are treated. I’m going by my own experiences and that if my female friends. One of my friends is a police officer and she says the force is rotten to the core with sexism and she just tries to keep her head down and get on with her job.

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