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Women targeted in stabbings in Belfast

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ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles · 13/10/2020 13:14

Three women stabbed and two more punched in the neck/head. Motive isn't clear yet but I'm guessing it's no coincidence that the victims are all women.

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DeliciouslyFemale · 15/10/2020 22:00

I’m sure he’ll promise never to do it again and all will be forgiven. Is it wrong that I hope he assaulted the daughter of someone ‘connected’?

caughtalightsneeze · 15/10/2020 21:56

@Smallsteps88

Excellent, now let’s see what NI justice he (if the guilty party) is handed. Let me guess, a slap on the wrist fine and suspended sentence.
And a statement from the judge about how the damage to his reputation is punishment in itself. Sad
Smallsteps88 · 15/10/2020 21:51

Excellent, now let’s see what NI justice he (if the guilty party) is handed. Let me guess, a slap on the wrist fine and suspended sentence.

caughtalightsneeze · 15/10/2020 21:49

There has apparently been an arrest.

Smallsteps88 · 15/10/2020 21:39

Jesus H Christ!

Can we really not discuss a single incident of Male violence against women without someone telling us that men have it worse??

Really?

What is the compulsion to do that all about? Look within yourself and try and find out why you feel you must do that @kattyboomboom. Meanwhile, let those of us discussing the 6 female victims of this one man, discuss them.

Kantastic · 15/10/2020 21:33

thank you DeliciouslyFemale. I was trying to resist commenting on the derail but the sheer ignorant stupidity of that last numerical comparison might have pushed me into doing it. I'm just going to repeat your comment instead for emphasis.

FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack · 15/10/2020 21:32

Freaky thing is, that front facing photo is the spit of a man I knew briefly years ago. He really hated women and was a bundle of barely suppressed rage. I'm actually slightly wierded out by it. Neither of the other two photos looks like him though.

DeliciouslyFemale · 15/10/2020 21:08

FFS kattyboomboom, if you’re so concerned about male violence on males, feel free to start a thread and stop bleating on about the poor men, on a thread about a particular MAN who has attacked five WOMEN!

kattyboomboom · 15/10/2020 21:06

Women definitely suffer more sexual violence. But on the other hand, you could look at men being conscripted into military service and this would make the % of male sufferers even higher.

kattyboomboom · 15/10/2020 21:05

Does your 'violence arena' encompass ALL violence? Including domestic abuse, sexual violence and rape?

Because while you are right about street violence and fights having predominantly male victims if you start to involve everything I consider to be violence I'd say females experience more - not that this is a race to the bottom but that is what came to mind when I read your post. Or am I being silly and pretending otherwise?

I'd say men have worse overall tbh.

Men are 400% more likely to be attacked by a stranger, whilst women are 10% more likely to suffer domestic abuse (I think it was 40% vs 60% from memory but most studies believe that many men are reluctant to report for fear of being seen as unmanly.

As I understand it, men are more more likely to be attacked by a stranger, whilst women are more likely to be attacked by an acquaintance of partner. Men make up almost 80% of worldwide homicides (70% in the UK).

lurker101 · 15/10/2020 16:27

Looks like they now have facial images - they’ve just been released. I hope someone recognises him from these (if it is him!)

FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack · 14/10/2020 15:43

I don't know, I can recognise all the men and women in my street who cycle from a distance by their bikes, build and typical clothing, if it had been one of them in the pic I'd have recognised them I think. With luck the same is true here.

FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack · 14/10/2020 15:38

It's scary stuff. They've released a CCTV pic so with luck someone will recognise him soon. For some reason I expected it to be a teen off his face on drugs but the build of the man in the image looks like an adult.

caughtalightsneeze · 14/10/2020 15:31

The police have released a CCTV image today but he was dressed head to toe in black and had a hood up so I think you'd have to know him pretty well to recognise him sadly.

PearPickingPorky · 14/10/2020 15:30

Anyway, I'm pretty annoyed at the suggestion that women should have a curfew or not go out alone.

They should be telling men to stay inside and not go out without a male chaperone who can keep him in check.

PearPickingPorky · 14/10/2020 15:29

If you don't mind, can we keep this thread about the young women who have been attacked by a man for the crime of being a female who has gone outside?

caughtalightsneeze · 14/10/2020 15:24

@deydododatdodontdeydo

For being male?

Yes.
Some men appear to be territorial. They will intimidate or attack other men for slights such as being in their neighbourhood, looking at them funny, looking weird, being in their pub, "looking at their bird", having the wrong team shirt on, a whole host of other reasons, where women in the same situation wouldn't be attacked.

Those aren't examples of being attacked for being male. Those are examples of being attacked for being perceived to have carried out an action that the attacker considers to be 'wrong'. And note I am not justifying it, I'm saying that the attacker would use that justification.
DandyMandy · 14/10/2020 15:16

It's a shame this thread became all about men being poor little victims. Also, someone quoted me but only latched onto one thing I said. Maybe quote the whole thing next time? I didn't say if this happened to men it would be all over the news, I said he would have been caught straight away.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 14/10/2020 15:13

For being male?

Yes.
Some men appear to be territorial. They will intimidate or attack other men for slights such as being in their neighbourhood, looking at them funny, looking weird, being in their pub, "looking at their bird", having the wrong team shirt on, a whole host of other reasons, where women in the same situation wouldn't be attacked.

ThePankhurstConnection · 14/10/2020 12:54

@kattyboomboom

I don't really want an argument though tbh, just saying that men have it much worse in the violence arena and it's silly to pretend otherwise.
Does your 'violence arena' encompass ALL violence? Including domestic abuse, sexual violence and rape?

Because while you are right about street violence and fights having predominantly male victims if you start to involve everything I consider to be violence I'd say females experience more - not that this is a race to the bottom but that is what came to mind when I read your post. Or am I being silly and pretending otherwise? Hmm

DeliciouslyFemale · 14/10/2020 12:44

We’re getting nowhere at all here in NI.

Women certainly aren’t. Men are getting everywhere.

caughtalightsneeze · 14/10/2020 11:53

@deydododatdodontdeydo

men aren't generally attacked whilst minding their own business just because someone is angry for some reason because men are out and about in public.

Sure they are.

For being male?
Smallsteps88 · 14/10/2020 11:25

It’s all about keeping it hidden in case we’re not seen as progressive. Yet, even here, female spaces are now becoming unisex, at the expense of females. Scratch the surface of any ‘progressive’ movements and you’ll find the same old sexism. Even the change to abortion laws is just crumbs thrown to women. It’s up until 12 weeks, which means many women will end up hitting the limit, before they know they’re pregnant. Religion controls most laws here.

100% this.

Also agree with the comments about bel tel Fb comments. I’ve stopped reading any comments underneath local news reports because they are just so depressing. We’re getting nowhere at all here in NI.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 14/10/2020 11:21

men aren't generally attacked whilst minding their own business just because someone is angry for some reason because men are out and about in public.

Sure they are.

DeliciouslyFemale · 14/10/2020 11:17

@caughtalightsneeze

The comments section on the Belfast Telegraph page is depressing. Shocking number of laughing emojis. Laughing at the the idea of a man targeting women, laughing at the idea that women are effectively put under a curfew when these things happen, laughing at the idea that women get blamed when they are victims of violence.
It goes back to what I was saying earlier. NI is rife with misogyny. The irony of those aresholes laughing at violence against women, while denying that misogyny exists.
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