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Julie Bindel - article on allies

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Goosefoot · 12/10/2020 12:36

Thought people might be interested in discussing this:

[https://unherd.com/2020/10/feminisms-dangerous-new-allies/]]

We've talked about this a lot here - I'm not sure Bindel has really said anything as worthwhile or interesting as lot of the regular posters here have, it seems a little one dimensional to me.

Maybe because she's really stuck on the left-good right-bad thinking and doesn't really consider whether there has been a change within those categories at all, or why the left has struggled with certain problems. It seems to me she sees it as almost random, and if we just take out the TRA stuff things can go back to normal.

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FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack · 12/10/2020 15:28

I can see her point. Admittedly I'm not in England but in NI. If I vote for the only party who appear to reject the idea of self identification that would be the DUP, who would then promptly take back the abortion rights we've been granted in theory but which haven't actually been made available yet.

VickyEadieofThigh · 12/10/2020 15:03

Floisme

Spot on.

Floisme · 12/10/2020 15:00

The trouble is, the Left has let women down. Badly.
It's a bit more fundamental than letting us down, isn't it, Julie?
The issue, as I see it, is that the left doesn't want me. They have made that perfectly clear. And yet they still seem to think they're entitled to have a say over who I should or shouldn't be talking to.

EvenSupposing · 12/10/2020 15:00

Well she just wants a pop at Posie from what I can see. She's very disappointing on that. Which is a shame because she's so generally not disappointing.

OvaHere · 12/10/2020 14:41

Often I agree with much of what Julie says but on other occasions find her frustrating. This is one such occasion.

I dislike the conflating of UK and US politics because they are quite different on many levels.

Also Julie often writes for right wing/right of centre publications. Presumably because The Guardian wouldn't publish much of what she says about gender. She was also on a panel recently about cancel culture on the same 'team' as Ayaan Hirsi Ali who I believe is unapologetically right wing.

Sometimes it's a bit do as I say not as I do.

AmericanSlang · 12/10/2020 14:32

Meanwhile "the Left" are all over Twitter again today, still trying to get Rosie Duffield cancelled for stating biological facts. I think it's time feminists faced up to the fact that the left do not care about women's rights

TheRealMcKenna · 12/10/2020 14:18

‘I will stand up for the rights of marginalised people’ in the same article as ‘I don’t believe TWAW’.

The illiberal left ain’t gonna tolerate that one.

Oh well.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 12/10/2020 13:29

Yet another dose of “purity politics” from Julie. Same old, same old

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Goosefoot · 12/10/2020 12:37

unherd.com/2020/10/feminisms-dangerous-new-allies/

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