Still attacking M Berns....

I’ve no idea why you’re bringing race into this. It’s not very nice to use another minority group to score points. That’s actually rather offensive and racist, it itself.

... one sweary tweet that was rude but NOT threatening

Quaagars, you are complaining over and over again about one sweary tweet that was rude but threatening or damaging in any way. On and on and on and on.

Yes it was rude. No it wasn't in any way harmful. I have read your repetitive comments. I have heard you. You are being validated. Now could you please change the record?

If you find the female anatomy threatening or offensive, you need to look at why that is

Did you actually read my comment?!
I said Of course that's not abuse
I'm reminded of the racism thread running.
Read my post again.
People just flat out refuse to see, or won't see, I just don't get it.

How is talking about the wonder of how a female body develops, abuse? Seriously? If I discuss periods, child birth, FGM, rape, 2-3 women being murdered a week, by men, is that abuse? Or is it only when I talk about how amazing a female body is, that it’s considered abuse?

Sorry, not sure if you're being purposefully obtuse?
Of course that's not abuse.
That wasn't the context that it was just used in though, come onnnnn.

Tits, that’s something women develop, as they grow from girls into women, just in case you’re wondering. Isn’t female anatomy amazing?

WTAF.
People really don't see this as abuse towards a minority group?
Just.... OK.

Well, I thought she was smart, intuitive and brave.

The current attacks on Twitter are horrible and indefensible.

I personally found Berns' videos strident, hectoring and patronising. She does not deserve the abuse she is getting but personally she made feel the "gender critical" side was not a side I wanted to be on.

[quote VanGoghsDog]twitter.com/sineadactually/status/1315409749706498053?s=19[/quote]
Aww bless. They really are getting a wee thrill out of mocking a dead woman, aren’t they. Imagine being so threatened by the legacy left behind by a female, that they can’t get her out of their minds.

I suppose, now that the public is becoming more aware of the underhand tactics used by the TRAs/MRAs, their hatred towards women/females, not to mention the evidence coming out on how children are being harmed by them, they need something to sooth them. Poor bitter little souls. Make the most of it ‘folk’, because it’s all going tits up for you. Tits, that’s something women develop, as they grow from girls into women, just in case you’re wondering. Isn’t female anatomy amazing?

You might as well follow “So do I” with a “but”

Do not put words in my mouth.
There was no but after it.
It is actually possible to be disgusted at both lots of abuse, you know.

twitter.com/sineadactually/status/1315409749706498053?s=19

My favourite soundbite from Magdalen is "I'd rather be rude than a fucking liar". Sums me up too, ask my ex-wife and our children. :o

She was a bright star who shone brilliantly but was snuffed out too soon.

I really would try not to make sweeping statements like "nobody, anywhere has said that's ok". Of course they do.

I've never once denied that there will no doubt be some people who send threats or abuse.
Also not once have I ever said that's an OK thing to do.

You specifically said, minutes ago "Nobody, anywhere, has said any of that is OK." Referring to women being "fair game for the most despicable of abuse to be rained down on them, even when they are dead"

So on the point, you were wrong.

So now you do acknowledge that some people do absolutely think it's ok "for the most despicable of abuse to be rained down on them, even when they are dead" That's something

I've never once denied that there will no doubt be some people who send threats or abuse.
Also not once have I ever said that's an OK thing to do.

If you watch Magdalen's videos she's very clear that she is fine with blokes presenting as they wish, she just knows they can't become women. She's extremely logical and reasonable.

Exactly. In her Alex Drummond video, she makes it clear that she has no problem with men wearing dresses and 'feminine' clothing, but that that doesn't make them women. She questions why a man wearing a dress (or a boiler suit....remember Alex cleverly educates us about how 'women can fix cars too ) then becomes a woman, and why Alex isn't widening the bandwidth of male, and why men should be able to wear dresses without getting shit from other men for it.

^I don't even know why I'm bothering biting, but.... I was talking about the tweet.
And I think you know that.^

I don't know why I'm bothering to reply to you, so that makes two of us. Easy way to rectify that I guess!

So do I.

So now you do acknowledge that some people do absolutely think it's ok "for the most despicable of abuse to be rained down on them, even when they are dead"

That's something.

As I said, Magdalen Berns believed that men cannot become women, believed that men dressing as women is often a fetish (do you believe that autogynephilia doesn't exist or what then?), believed that womanhood and women's oppression is being appropriated by males and that its not a costume that someone can put on.

She expressed these beliefs in an angry tweet. She had been relentlessly abused on Twitter and lost her shit back at them. If she had the level of hatred that you say she had, there would be loads of these tweets for them to reference, why is it only ever this one that we see?

She doesn't believe males are women, or lesbians, and she's very angry about being gaslighted that they are. That's the "transphobia"

I don't even know why I'm bothering biting, but.... I was talking about the tweet.
And I think you know that.

The fact you can't see the transphobia

She doesn't believe males are women, or lesbians, and she's very angry about being gaslighted that they are. That's the "transphobia".

I do think it's disgusting that people are mocking a young woman having died

So do I.