Still attacking M Berns....

if someone not trans had one, would it be a case of "look, this is what people who aren't trans are like!"

If someone not trans had one, it would be rightly criticised as sick appropriation and women who had suffered a miscarriage or a stillborn baby who were upset by it would be listened to and the person would be banned from the pregnancy group. Instead see the delusion-affirming clusterfuck and unforgivable treatment of a woman who had had a stillbirth that ensued in the Facebook group being referred to here.

There you are again with 'strident'. Such a misogynist word. It's OK by me if Magdalen puts misogynists off being GC. I'm not clear that we want misogynists overly much. I mean, maybe to make the tea?

It's so black and white for some of you isn't it? Any comment less than 100% approval is evidence of being a TRA or a misogynist. It's the same approach as the TRAs you (general you) condemn. Sides have to be taken-one must be for or against with nothing in between.

DoctorTwo as well as being a fabulous buy in itself, you'll be supporting a female artist who has experienced a lot of unpleasant abuse and attempts to cancel her career, from the wonderfully kind and not at all authoritarian "artistic community"

Those are the people MB was talking about.

There was a transwoman who "stimulated" pregnacy, and was planning to loose the baby at 41 weeks, they asked a friend who had a stillborn, for advice.
This person was on a breastfeeding group, and a woman was kicked off the group for saying she felt uncomfortable with what that person was doing.

There are trans women on twitter with large followings who "joke" about forced "breeding".

Period fetish is huge, and it is increasing because women can't say no without being called transphobic.

Quaagars on this very site, a transwomen told me that my experience of infertility was less painful than theirs because 'at least I had a womb'. Here in feminist chat and they'd fathered children.

I don't blame Magdalen at all for kicking off just once. I couldn't kick off on here at that person who took my experience and made it All About Them because they were transitioning.

Rest in power, Sister.

Both sides?

Why is it automatically not abuse and "just someone getting a bit cross and losing their temper" if they haven't sent threats?
You know they both can be abuse, right?

I'm really interested to know Quaagars what you think of people, who have a pregnancy fetish?
I think it's pretty fucking weird tbh (to put it mildly)
What the hell has that got to do with the majority of trans people though?
People have all kinds of sick and weird fetishes all the time, if someone not trans had one, would it be a case of "look, this is what people who aren't trans are like!"
Don't think so.

Anyone decent appalled at Magdalen's tweet would have also condemned the abuse she received and the mocking of her death. Anyone who doesn't, has an agenda.

Don't know how to say that any clearer tbh!

Just pointing out that you did definitely make the untrue claim that nobody, anywhere was ok with it. Clearly quite a lot of people are, aren't they? So this abuse of women for gender critical views is rife, rather than something you can handwave away as irrelevant.

Ooh, thank you @AmericanSlang, I will order one of those and plan to wear the fuck out of it.

Both sides? Show me one tweet were women mock the death of transwoman?

I'm really interested to know Quaagars what you think of people, who have a pregnancy fetish?

It's not a thread about MB. It's a thread about someone mocking her death. You have not spent any time on here discussing that.

There are THOUSANDS of abusive threats by transactivists on those links.
Yes, and I think they're vile.

You've spent all this time on ONE extremely tame by comparison Tweet by Magdalen Burns
Yes, because this is a thread ABOUT MB.
Not playing a game of whataboutery.
I can think both "side" abuse is vile.

I have never said I'm OK with it so not sure why you think I am.

Oh I'm so sorry, I just jumped to that conclusion based on how time and energy you dedicate to condemning women who are the targets of this abuse, vs how much time and energy you devote to condemning the abuse itself. At a certain point when you spend so much more time berating the victims than the abusers, "he's okay with the abuse" is the natural conclusion to draw.

There are THOUSANDS of abusive threats by transactivists on those links. You've spent all this time on ONE extremely tame by comparison Tweet by Magdalen Burns. It says a lot about your morals and your priorities, whether you acknowledge it or not.

Don't know how to say that any clearer tbh!

Except that you did try to claim that "nobody, anywhere" was ok with it

Nowher have I said I was OK with it.
I have never said I was OK with it but I'm being asked why I'm OK with it, and to defend abuse.
I have never been OK with it.
Me.

I have never said I'm OK with it so not sure why you think I am.

Except that you did try to claim that "nobody, anywhere" was ok with it. Which is obviously untrue.

That was for Quaagars

Quaggers

What do you think of the festizising of pregnancy?

Kantastic
I'm not OK with abuse, and I don't condone it, and I've said that.
I think abuse is awful whatever "side" it's on, so why ask me to defend it?
I have never said I'm OK with it so not sure why you think I am.

@Quaagars sorry, username typo above! sometimes I type stuff like I mentally hear it.

DoctorTwo you can get that on a t-shirt

thefamousartistbirdyrose.com/products/magdalen-t-shirt-vest

Quackers please defend this:
terfisaslur.com/
this:
medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-activists-a-story-in-screenshots-78e01dca68d
this:
transactivistsitow.tumblr.com/
and this:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3955276-resource-thread-of-tra-screenshots

Please explain how you are "OK with" each individual screenshot in the above compilations.

Once you've done that, I'll get back to you with an explanation of how someone who was continually subjected to a barrage of the above might make one intemperate tweet.