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Langcleg is vindicated

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Namechangex5 · 08/10/2020 23:46

Mumsnet thought that Langcleg was wrong to state safeguarding regarding children who thought they were trans. When langcleg argued for our kids Mumsnet didn’t like it. Mumsnet caved to the men. Instead of champion safeguarding, Mumsnet got rid of an expertise on this. Well, Langcleg was right and the Tavistock judicial review shows this.
Langcleg kept me sane in a world where others tried to gaslight me for my refusal to believe that my child was born in the wrong body.
Shame on you Mumsnet for cancelling the very people who help us parents. The voice of sanity. More importantly the voice of support. Do you really think langcleg did this for her own gain? No. She did this to protect us all. Gonna report this post now to bring it to the attention of the monitors.
Langcleg if you are still reading these posts I thank you so much for you help. I wish you were here now to comment on the Tavistock review and feel vindicated.

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TinselAngel · 10/10/2020 00:09

I've been there OP, and one of the saddest things was around the time Lang was banned, the promising ROGD parent's support thread imploded because the posters felt MNHQ couldn't sufficiently guarantee their safety.

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Namechangex5 · 09/10/2020 23:23

Mumsnet has no idea what this is like. When you can’t sleep and you want someone to say it’s ok I understand. When you cry and you hide your tears by having a shower at 2pm or later so your family don’t worry about the mum. When you wake up and be thankful that you have a job- not because it is amazing but because you have to focus on your work. When you do the housework that you normally hate but it is a distraction. When you eventually go to bed and wonder how to switch off and start to believe that someone, somewhere is fighting to protect your child. When you do all that and you reach out for support on a parenting forum and someone decides your voice is not worthy or the people who are trying their best from stopping you from Sinking are cancelled., what hope have I.
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Whoiswrongg · 09/10/2020 23:20

I used to lurk on the feminism threads and sorry but I do remember her as being a bit of a bully. The best threads were those with opposing views and arguments as I learned way more watching intelligent debate around the subject but she did seem to shout most people down if they weren’t on her side and try and shut it down.
Not sure what she was banned for, but her name always stands out to me for this reason and I get confused seeing all the nicknames in tribute to her.

Mammatino · 09/10/2020 23:13

Just for a friend...cheese stuffed dolmades always keep the peace x

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 09/10/2020 23:12

Now wondering if you know me or have met me in RL as you've just described me and my sneezing fits

That’d be funny 😀

I sneeze many times in a row but mine are like bombs going off

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 09/10/2020 23:10

No

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 09/10/2020 23:10

Had you trained them?

Hahahahahahaa

SirVixofVixHall · 09/10/2020 22:49

OP those are moving posts. Yes of course we as parents should be able to question this, to talk about keeping children safe. I do feel that the clamping down has gone too far. If mumsnet welcome a range of opinions then they should not be policing what we can say to such a degree. I have had two posts deleted in the last couple of months, and yet I try to stay within the posting rules. It does seem that the deletions can be inconsistent. I also find it emotionally difficult to have to monitor what I say , to pussyfoot around issues that need frank and open discussion.
I would absolutely not have believed ten years ago that this would be the situation now.

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Namechangex5 · 09/10/2020 21:51

I also think that Mumsnet thinks we are the minority. When this becomes more mainstream I hope they can say they give us, the parents who do no believe that life long medication and body mutilation is a justified pathway, a voice. That’s all we want. A voice to question.

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Al1Langdownthecleghole · 09/10/2020 21:47

So to get this back on track as it were...

I was beyond frustrated at the time, that Lang’s actual point about MNHQ mods not understanding how coercive control was used wasn’t acknowledged and yet the actions proved her point beyond any doubt.

That Lang was subsequently called a bully looked like Darvo to me.

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Namechangex5 · 09/10/2020 21:46

I stopped contributing to Mumsnet when they banned langcleg. I was disgusted that they banned her for fighting for me. She pointed out safeguarding which we all know was true. What Mumsnet doesn’t realise is that she kept me sane. She give me hope and helped me , a mum, from wanting to throw in the towel. She give me strength to be strong in my truth. She helped me understand what a responsible adult should do. She give me hope and supported me when I could not agree with my trans identifying child.
What did Mumsnet do. Cut off my support. It was not just langcleg. It was all the posters who understood my stance. Mumsnet was not supporting me - a parent who is caught up in the transing of kids. Mumsnet failed me by stopping the debate. Mumsnet couldn’t bear the pressure from TRA’s and they stopped supporting my belief. They did not allow me to have an advocate when I needed others to fight for me. I was too emotional but Lang Cleg and Datun and others were the calming influence.
Mumsnet said they want to encourage all views. If this is true then why did you cancel the most important person in my on line life?
Why did you take away my support? You centred men over women. Shame on you Mumsnet

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Al1Langdownthecleghole · 09/10/2020 21:39

Sorry, missed it Tinsel. Tunnel vision.

TinselAngel · 09/10/2020 21:28

I thought it was to the point(s).

FloralBunting · 09/10/2020 21:09

I bet you were steaming that you had to stoke up some interest, eh Tinsel?

NeurotrashWarrior · 09/10/2020 21:05

@TinselAngel

Nobody's going to acknowledge my hilarious pun then? Blush

What a delightful derail!

FloralBunting · 09/10/2020 21:03

Pun noted, Tinsel. Head gently shaking in acknowledgement...

Butterer · 09/10/2020 21:02

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Quaagars · 09/10/2020 21:02

Creepy

?

TinselAngel · 09/10/2020 20:58

Nobody's going to acknowledge my hilarious pun then? Blush

Oxyiz · 09/10/2020 20:56

Creepy.

quixote9 · 09/10/2020 20:54

MNHQ needs to apologize and invite Langcleg back.

That's what you do when you were wrong.

ManOfPies · 09/10/2020 20:40

Why weren't you interested in this stuff before your daughters/nieces were part of your life?

Who says I wasn't?

I like to keep up to date and mumsnet is a good place to do so, even if often unfriendly to men (whilst claiming to fight sexism).

Quaagars · 09/10/2020 20:35

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

I knew someone who sneezed like this...

Choo, choo,choo,choo,choo.choo

For about 10 mins

Now wondering if you know me or have met me in RL as you've just described me and my sneezing fits Shock Grin If so soz about that, I do around 10 non stop in a row and they do come out a bit machine gun like Blush
TinselAngel · 09/10/2020 20:33

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

I knew someone who sneezed like this...

Choo, choo,choo,choo,choo.choo

For about 10 mins

Had you trained them?
Agrona · 09/10/2020 20:11

I miss Lang, The Bewilderness, AAK and so many other wise women who were targeted. FWR still stands, is regularly targeted by posters who are looking for screenshots who then attempt to have other posters banned, The recent revelation about scumsnet makes it clear how a certain group of people do not like certain posters providing clarity about issues.

There are still so many wise women posting, like Red, Datun and others but it is hard not to miss Lang and her clear insight into areas of concern.