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Times: Chemist sells hormones for kids online

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Malahaha · 06/10/2020 09:46

I don't think this is a share token. Still haven't mastered the art.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chemist-sells-hormones-for-trans-children-online-cbgtxlbdr?fbclid=IwAR0ocQdGvaFBfucRwkSlnanlQlhiOi6eH8X3uVprlH7fj8Y-WOSCdoXeOSY

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Winesalot · 08/10/2020 22:04

Still waiting to hear how, why or if left handedness and cross dressing are related?

I’d read it was due to the increase in mothers age in pregnancy. For the increase in left handed people that is.

PearPickingPorky · 08/10/2020 22:02

[quote MadBadDaddy]@Datun
They'll reduc all right. As soon as schools nationwide start abiding by the government advice to stop teaching gender ideology, stop no platforming people who object to it, and demand an evidence base for all of it, certainly the children queueing up at gender clinics will plummet.

Did you know that the number of left handed people in the world has increased sevenfold in the last 100 years? Why do you think that is?[/quote]
Is it because some quack doctors started chopping off people's right hand?

RedToothBrush · 08/10/2020 22:02

[quote MadBadDaddy]@RedToothBrush

I love how you bounce around any point i make until you find something almost completely unrelated to get pissy about and then lay it at my door like I'm in charge of the Trans Hive Mind or I have a hotline to Trans HQ or something.

I've never said anything to Her Holiness one way or another. I think she sucks but I keep it mostly to myself. Trans people have more to worry about TBH. Feel free to ignore or misunderstand that point and bounce off somewhere else.[/quote]
I'm sorry, but was it you who posted the following earlier today suggesting that FWR was full of a hivemind who all hate trans people?

MadBadDaddy Thu 08-Oct-20 17:02:57
FWR: "We don't hate trans people"

(1000s of trans people lose access to their meds overnight thanks to concerted, well-resourced campaigningthat won't stop with Clear Chemist. Trans people will now either swamp the already overloaded GICs, or go underground for their meds and use youtube as a doctor)

FWR: victory dance

Sorry, I'm getting confused by the cognitive dissonance and the stench of utter complete hypocrisy.

Its difficult to understand what point you are making when you contradict yourself so bloody much and can't hold a consistent thought for more than about twenty minutes.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/10/2020 22:02

Help them realise that their bodies will change as they mature and that's fine.

And that, though when they are older they can take hormones and identify as trans, they are not the opposite sex, they never will be, and they need to be supported to come to terms with that.

Signalbox · 08/10/2020 21:57

How come the GMC hasn't just struck her off on account of being a danger and acting beyond her scope of practice?

Helen Webberley is currently on an interim suspension and her substantive case has not yet been heard. I believe it was due to be heard this year at some point but what with COVID I imagine there is now a massive backlog of cases waiting. She could well be struck off when her case is finally heard since she is utterly unrepentant, has no insight or recognition that she has done anything wrong.

Datun · 08/10/2020 21:53

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MadBadDaddy · 08/10/2020 21:50

@RedToothBrush

I love how you bounce around any point i make until you find something almost completely unrelated to get pissy about and then lay it at my door like I'm in charge of the Trans Hive Mind or I have a hotline to Trans HQ or something.

I've never said anything to Her Holiness one way or another. I think she sucks but I keep it mostly to myself. Trans people have more to worry about TBH. Feel free to ignore or misunderstand that point and bounce off somewhere else.

RedToothBrush · 08/10/2020 21:47

Sorry Datun, I was getting confused at all the cognitive dissonance going on about how hormones were simultaneously not addictive but not getting them would led to patients turning to the blackmail because they HAVE to have them.

Silly me.

Datun · 08/10/2020 21:44

@RedToothBrush

And describing hormones as 'addictive' is ludicrous.

I thought the argument about how awful it was the Webberleys have been shut down again was that all these people who couldn't now get their prescriptions were going to be so desparate to get their next fix prescription they'd start looking for their drugs on the blackmarket.

oh. wait.

It is.
Winesalot · 08/10/2020 21:40

the same dose.

Isn’t the dose 4x what a menopausal Women is prescribed (according to D Thomas who was so happy to inform women in their article that they were getting this in a time of HRT shortage where women need it to actually keep working)

RedToothBrush · 08/10/2020 21:40

And describing hormones as 'addictive' is ludicrous.

I thought the argument about how awful it was the Webberleys have been shut down again was that all these people who couldn't now get their prescriptions were going to be so desparate to get their next fix prescription they'd start looking for their drugs on the blackmarket.

oh. wait.

Datun · 08/10/2020 21:39

Webberley is already being investigated by mainstream media. They can sniff out a medial scandal.

If people like mad and JJ want to align themselves with her, I, for one, have no intention of urging caution.

Exposing the reason why people want her to keep prescribing, is a key part of this.

Escapeplanning · 08/10/2020 21:39

Women don't use anti androgens.

Anyway this is a parenting site and this is a thread about children not adult human males.

RedToothBrush · 08/10/2020 21:37

That and the violation of women's boundaries is all to do with which hand you hold your pen. is

n't it.

Winesalot · 08/10/2020 21:36

And describing hormones as 'addictive' is ludicrous.

It really isn’t when you look at the reaction that the loss of these hormones has caused. They may not be ‘addictive’ in one sense, but the effect of them sure is.

What is ludicrous is calling cross sex hormones ‘hrt’. No ‘replacement’ being done.

KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 08/10/2020 21:36

@MadBadDaddy

You are not on HRT,

I didn't say i was on HRT, though did I? 'cos i knew you'd say that.

But it is the same medicine, the same dose, maybe even from the same chemist.

Yes, going into a male body as a cross sex hormone, not into a female body as a replacement hormone. So, as I said, not comparable to HRT for menopausal women in terms of effects on the body.
RedToothBrush · 08/10/2020 21:36

[quote MadBadDaddy]@datun there is less sympathy for her, granted, but not none.[/quote]
'Less sympathy'.

Ok then.

That'll be why we've had so many efforts to burn the witch Rowling then.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/10/2020 21:35

I saw on the GGP site that they are actively looking for a new partner to provide the hormones. My understanding is that Clear Chemist stopped because their insurers told them they wouldn't cover them? If this is the case presumably GGP are going to find it hard to find a new partner?

Datun · 08/10/2020 21:34

RedToothBrush

Datun
I imagine mad is going to try and make a correlation between the fact that left-handedness is generally more accepted, and that's why there is more of them now.

🙄
Is that so we get distracted and forget to talk about how the Webberleys clinic got shut down cos it doesn't believe in medical ethnics and operate like black market dealers?

Just so we keep on topic and don't get sucked into bullshit arguments based on frogs or something equally unrelated.

Exactly. That and the violation of women's boundaries is all to do with which hand you hold your pen.

Obvs.

MadBadDaddy · 08/10/2020 21:33

@datun there is less sympathy for her, granted, but not none.

Datun · 08/10/2020 21:32

If anything they are groomed by GCers looking for political capital. Thats why reddit kept shutting down the detrans subs.

Between you and J 'the-violent-flasher-is-the-victim-here' J we can't move for risible, darvo arguments.

RedToothBrush · 08/10/2020 21:31

@Datun

I imagine mad is going to try and make a correlation between the fact that left-handedness is generally more accepted, and that's why there is more of them now.

🙄

Is that so we get distracted and forget to talk about how the Webberleys clinic got shut down cos it doesn't believe in medical ethnics and operate like black market dealers?

Just so we keep on topic and don't get sucked into bullshit arguments based on frogs or something equally unrelated.

MadBadDaddy · 08/10/2020 21:30

You are not on HRT,

I didn't say i was on HRT, though did I? 'cos i knew you'd say that.

But it is the same medicine, the same dose, maybe even from the same chemist.

Datun · 08/10/2020 21:29

[quote MadBadDaddy]@RedToothBrush
And detransitioners are shamed by the trans community as being traitors or fakes etc.

Absolute bollocks. Most trans people have nothing but respect and sympathy for detranisitioners, not all of whom detrans b/c they are not trans, but b/c transitioning is too hard for them. We are all gender questioning people, wherever we end up.

If anything they are groomed by GCers looking for political capital. Thats why reddit kept shutting down the detrans subs.[/quote]
How you can say that with a straight face when Keira Bell is in court at this very minute, comes as absolutely no surprise to anyone.

RedToothBrush · 08/10/2020 21:28

[quote MadBadDaddy]@RedToothBrush
And detransitioners are shamed by the trans community as being traitors or fakes etc.

Absolute bollocks. Most trans people have nothing but respect and sympathy for detranisitioners, not all of whom detrans b/c they are not trans, but b/c transitioning is too hard for them. We are all gender questioning people, wherever we end up.

If anything they are groomed by GCers looking for political capital. Thats why reddit kept shutting down the detrans subs.[/quote]
I read twitter.

Don't give me that bullshit.