Kiera Bell on Radio 4 Today this morning

(Excuse partial cross-posts with some of the above!)

Absinthe it's Keira, not Kiera , but also the one that comes up for me if you search on her name is her other case, which has now been stopped due to the NHS review by Hilary Cass which has now been announced and would cover much of the same ground.

To find the funder for the case starting tomorrow you need to search for Susan Evans as she was the person who originally set it up, but they later decided to replace her as a claimant with Keira (I think that's the right wording!).

She was really very good on the radio. Totally clear, calm message. She's good at it.

It takes a particular kind of person to do something hard like this even though it won't really benefit her directly - it's for other people. Much respect.

The lawyer was very good too. Keira's experience sounds different to the stated policy which (I thought) was 'watchful waiting'. It will be interesting to see how the court pick through that.

If you are looking for the crowd justice page just remember that there was a second keira bell case which has been dropped because the NHS announced the Cass review, but I think the page is still there - the updates state its dropped.

Ahh - that could explain it Necessary, thank you!

Clear, unemotional speaking. Interviewer allowed her to speak uninterrupted. Very unusual.

I tried typing Kiera Bell into the search box

It's "Keira". Maybe OP could request a title correction?

What a brilliant interview. I think Keira and her lawyer covered all the key points. Psychological conditions need psychological treatment and there is no evidence base for safe use in children. Anyone new to the case would get a good grasp of the key points.

I really hope that proper support for people with gender dysphoria comes out of this.

Thanks tea.

I tried typing Kiera Bell into the search box on the CJ site, but nothing came up. For others looking to put in some spadework, Googling Kiera Bell crowdjustice took me to the page.

Brilliant interview Keira, thank you for giving so much your time and energy to this fight. So many women are behind you. Thank you.

Keira does indeed need a bit of spadework.

The CJ site is good ground to start with...

Just listened.

I dont know what to say reakky other than good luck.

And thank you.

From the bottom if my heart. Thank you. For my kids for everyones kids. There are no words to express how grateful I am to you and how proud of your determination and bravery I think we all are.

I hope that even at the darkest times through out all this that you are abke to remember that. We are here we maybe nameless and we may be just words on a screen on here but we are all with you!

So again. Thank you

Such a true statement and it is so wrong that anyone has tried to prevent it being viewed as a psychological condition. If no one is born in the wrong body, why is anyone being offered medical treatment and surgery? The WHO stated that it is the trans organisations that pushed to have it reclassified so that any sort of gender dysphoria, whatever the root cause, is not offered mental health treatment - they all funnel straight down the affirmation route.

That poor person on the SFW fb page this morning - a 14 yr old suffering from gender dysphoria, double mastectomy booked for two weeks time, hormones already started and dysphoria getting worse.

The mum is researching how to help the child post surgery, worrying that their bed is too low so they will struggle getting up and down with the surgery wounds - why aren't they being helped to investigate the root cause of the dysphoria??

The doctors in America (and private doctors in the UK) are promoting this hard - they instantly create a huge income stream with a patient that has lifelong medical needs (especially if you can persuade them to go for the phalloplasty - I saw a blog last night where a twenty something is now in a wheelchair because the treatment has taken such a toll on their body). No wonder the big pharmaceuticals are funding Stonewall (it is on their public accounts if anyone wants to check) - follow the money.

@HPFA thank you

I was going to ask where the various allotments are.

Does Kiera still need some digging doing?

I'm a bit behind on where spadework is required. Caught up with Ann Sinnott's gardening at the last minute but could do with direction on where to dig next.

@JoodyBlue

Good to hear this discussed in this timeslot. Keira if you should see this the points you made came across well. Will be following your case as closely as possible. Whatever the outcome, and let's hope it is the right one, you are an amazing young person, and the skills you show in leading so that others don't come to harm will play out in your life going forward. A tearful start to the day for me, listening to this, but one in which I am heartened and made hopeful, yet again, by the courage and resolve of a young person. Go hon

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Thank you for letting us know. What a brave young woman!

I would love to see Kiera invited into schools and universities to speak - she comes across as so very calm and logical, as someone who is open and honest about what has happened to her.

Thank you dear Keira

Such an honest and clear interview, she is so calm and measured and courageous despite all she's been through.

So heartened to hear the truth being spoken and allowed to stand freely on the BBC. It really is quite something.

Solicitor Paul Conrathe quotes Professor Carl Heneghan Oxford University - The current evidence base does not support informed decision making and safe practice in children.

Professor Carl Heneghan blog with that quote

God, she is so brave. That was very clear and sad. This is a national scandal.

Good to hear this discussed in this timeslot. Keira if you should see this the points you made came across well. Will be following your case as closely as possible. Whatever the outcome, and let's hope it is the right one, you are an amazing young person, and the skills you show in leading so that others don't come to harm will play out in your life going forward. A tearful start to the day for me, listening to this, but one in which I am heartened and made hopeful, yet again, by the courage and resolve of a young person. Go hon

Just heard on radio. Struck by her common sense statement "Psychological conditions need psychological treatments."

Seems so obvious and the call for better mental health provision as gender identity issues do not present in a vacuum.

Thank you Keira! Very best of luck to you.